STUNNING! IHME Reduces Their Model Predictions AGAIN! -- Now Say Peak Is ON EASTER and Only 60,000 D

Was that one of the numerous days that Trump was holding packed RALLIES?

 

The CDC...headed by Trump's handpicked incompetent Redfield.

So Trump picks this freak and then blames everything ON him. Way to go.

Had there still been a Pandemic Response Team in the White House...they might have held this moron in check and held him accountable in real time.

There are still good, incredibly competent people at the CDC...Redfield is not one of them and he holds the power

 

Your point is...what?

 

So you are claiming that Redfield personally made the decisions that screwed by Coronavirus testing? That wasn't in the New Yorker article. What are you referring to specifically?

 

SOMEONE in the CDC decided not to use the WHO tests that South Korea used to develop our test...That's an institutional decision. Who makes institutional decisions in an agency like the CDC? Who is responsible for that kind of momentous decision.

 

Was it ONLY the CDC? Or was it the entire Administration..

From the above New Yorker article

The problems with covid-19 testing in the United States have obscured what was, near the start of the pandemic, a triumph of modern medical science. On January 10th, three days after Chinese government officials announced that a novel coronavirus, now known as sars-CoV-2, was responsible for an upsurge of pneumonia cases in Wuhan, China, a team of Chinese scientists uploaded a copy of the virus’s genome to an online repository⁠, and virologists around the world set to work to develop diagnostic tests for the new disease. On January 21st, a team in Berlin, led by Christian Drosten, one of the scientists who discovered the original sars virus, in 2003, submitted the first paper to describe a protocol for testing for sars-CoV-2. (That protocol would form the basis for a test disseminated, early on, by the World Health Organization.)⁠ That same day, Messonnier announced that the C.D.C. had finalized its own test⁠, which it used to confirm the first known case of covid-19 in the U.S.

 

“We (University of Washing Lab) started, probably in earnest in mid-January, to prepare what we call a laboratory-developed test,⁠” Jerome said. It took a team at the lab, working under the direction of Alex Greninger, about two weeks to develop a working version. But, as soon as Alex Azar, the Secretary of Health and Human Services, declared a public-health emergency, on February 4th, a new regulatory regime took effect. From that point on, any lab that wanted to conduct its own tests for the new coronavirus would first need to secure something called an Emergency Use Authorization from the F.D.A. (The C.D.C., which had been working closely with the F.D.A., received the first E.U.A. for a covid-19 test on the same day as Azar’s declaration.)

 

was the Trump guidelines to America that shut down the economy

from the white house web page - read the part in black

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/03.16.20_coronavirus-guidance_8.5x11_315PM.pdf



then Trump changed it to

 

Trump stopped others from doing the testing as he thought that the less people tested the lower the count would be - he did not want the truth

 

will we have a 2nd wave? what does our dear leader have to say?

 

the Trump admin screwed up in not allowing the states to do their own testing

 

I take it you've not read the New Yorker article I posted?

 

Trump stopped it? Can you document that?

 

So really, you are blaming the FDA. The head of the FDA is Stephen Hahn. Why aren't you blaming him?

 

He's not blameless...but AZAR is his boss and Trump is HIS boss.

The fish rots from the head

 

Read it? I posted FROM it above

 

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I saw Larry (Kudlow) on video sober the other day so things must be getting serious now.

I see Trump is on job with CDC to lower the death count….counting that is:

Trump pressures CDC to lower death toll by changing how it counts coronavirus fatalities

All the immoral actions taken in today’s pandemic have happened before in London during the 1665 bubonic plague that killed 100,000 people in 18 months.

• Those that became infected were judged sinful.

• The pandemic was thought to have struck because of the immorality of the poor that died the most while the rich were allowed to leave town.
• The city of London hired villagers to lockup any ill person and their family members, ill or not, into their homes with metal locks condemning the healthy family members to death.

• Villagers were paid as watchmen to make sure no person escaped forced quarantine.

• Homemade cures were sold such as smoking tobacco, eating cadaver body parts, syphilis (the virus was free, but not the inoculation procedure), opium, and mercury enigmas (this one would be a good one for Larry). Different versions were sold to the rich and the poor.(Wife survives after couple in their 60s ingested chloroquine phosphate, which Trump falsely claimed was approved to treat coronavirus)

• Nurses were hated and were constantly accused of theft and spreading the plague.(Trump Suggests New York Hospital Workers Are Stealing Face Masks).

• Gravediggers would in fact infect people with the plague so to collect funeral costs in which every step of burial had a fee. Those gravediggers that survived the plague got very rich. (Michigan anti-lockdown protesters spread COVID-19 to rural areas, Whitmer tells Pence in leaked call).

• John Lawrence, Mayor of London, built only for himself a glass house inside his mansion to do all his daily business.(Trump and Pence Will Now Be Tested Daily for the Coronavirus)(Hospitals say feds are seizing masks and other coronavirus supplies without a word).

• Londoners killed 100,000 cats thinking they were infecting the people: the rat population exploded.

• London lacked a sewage infrastructure.(Hospitals are warning they aren't prepared for coronavirus)

Mass murder Trump has a real death toll of

85,066 Americans dead plus 20,000 under reported by design.

105,066 dead

The Los Angeles Coliseum only seats 90,000 persons​

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Did Trump order Azar, or Hahn, to hold up testing?

 

This thread aged very badly, as do almost most conservative conspiracy theory threads.

Why do death forecasts vary? Because they depend on social distancing polices, and those keep changing drastically.

 

How would we ever know? Trump hides everything and won't allow any of "his people" to testify before Congress

Trump clearly has shown his disdain for testing and in fact has refused to use the DPA to produce them or the accouterments needed for them

 

Well if you are going to blame Trump for sabotaging testing, you should have a better reason than we don't know what's going on, so therefore: guilty.

 

“Freedom consists in knowing that freedom is in peril. But to know or to be conscious is to have time to avoid and forestall the instant of inhumanity. It is this perpetual postponing of the hour of treason….”—Holocaust survivor Emmanuel Levinas in Totality and Infinity, p. 35 (pdf).

Trump has repeatedly revised the expected U.S. death toll upward in his public statements, saying in mid-April that the U.S. could see 50,000 to 60,000 dead, then saying later that month that the country could reach 70,000 dead. Earlier in May, he said total U.S. deaths from the COVID-19 pandemic could reach up to 100,000. All of those figures are lower than the current CDC projections of 100,000 dead by June 1.

“if we didn’t do any testing we would have very few cases.”—Trump on Covid testing

“It is a dreadful saying that the gods blind those whom they want to ruin…But who are these gods? They are the evil instincts that are in every nation with whose help the Nazis came to power…God opens the eyes of those whom he wants to save, however terrible this awakening may be.”-- “Against The Third Reich,” Paul Tillich’s Wartime Addresses to Nazi Germany 1942 to D-Day 1944 (pdf.) p.149, passim.

The purpose of the herd immunity meme is to objectify and dehumanized persons as abstract stochastic datum, and other econometrics.

Paul Krugman offers an elegy for the ‘thousands about to die for the Dow’

If the United State is unprepared for a pandemic lacking an actual public health care system, lack of medical supplies, medicines, ventilators, then it means the same is true with an outbreak of Bubonic plague, Ebola, or any deadly virus that spreads through a population. “Herd immunity profiteering,” is the default corporatist policy because the sick begging on a GoFundMe website requires little government action.

90,312 Americans dead plus 20,000 under reported by design.​

110,312 human beings that were alive ten weeks ago are now dead.​

This number is about twice the causalities of the 20 years Vietnam War.
2X
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The "models have not even been close.
In Minnesota, there have been 748 deaths to date. 82% over 70 years old with the vast majority well into their mid eighties.
The state was in lockdown and on May 12 when the total deaths were at approx 650, the governor claimed the models predicted they would have 1700 deaths by the end of May. At that time that would have meant over 1000 deaths in the following two weeks.
The next day the governor came out and said in a different news article, that number is 1400 deaths by the end of May.
The next day in a Town Hall he used the number 1000 by the end of May.
Apparently in three days, whatever models he was using went from 1700>1400>1000.
Why should anybody believe any of this crap?

 

Editing out the context of my post to make it say something else is a violation of rule 4, "mischaracterizing their statements by quoting them and changing the quotes. " Reported! And ignored status.

 

I don't know what exactly you think was "out of context" about that. I quoted the entire sentence, without edits, and presented the context that coronavirus deaths are only a small fraction of the total deaths we've seen in this country over the preceding ten weeks. But report away, we'll see what the mods say.