ANTIFA seizes 6 blocks in Seattle, and declares it a police free zone.

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  1. ImNotOliver

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    Were you saying that as the Bundy gang occupied a wildlife refuge and trashed it? Or when they tried to get away with stealing millions of dollars of range usage without payment?

    Did you not say you live in Oklahoma, the state that inprisions more if its citizens than any other state? Lock em up lock em up. Ahhh, an authoritarian police state, a right winger's wet dream.
     
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    Look what your Seattle comrades are doing, building walls, controlling the border, stop and frisk, using guns to accomplish it all. LOL, everything they claim to be against.
     
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    Aah, a state of total chaos with no controls, a left wingers dream. What you see in the riot videos IS the left wing's dream for America.

    Bundy's situation as you well no is in no way comparable. I do not live in Oklahoma. IF you aren't a criminal, it's rare that you wind up in prison, and the only person to blame if you are a criminal is YOU....
    I see you would prefer an authoritarian riot as a form of justice, where if you are angry for some reason you go out and burn your neighbor's house.

    Do you seriously think that load of crap is defendable, let alone saleable? Either you aren't as smart as I thought, or you think the rest of the world is dumb as a stump.
     
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    My girlfriend likes to play this game. She is very sociable and has a face that is quite easy on the eyes. The goal is to see what kind of silly things she can get unsuspecting people to believe. My role has always been to support her without breaking into laughter.

    One of her more funny routines is when she convinces a group of church people that she makes her money by getting pregnant and then selling the baby for $30,000. The looks on their faces are priceless.

    In 1999, just as the year 2000 was approaching, it was revealed that those marketing end of times survival products were most successful marketing to conservative Christians. In the summer of 2000 I bought a really nice, never been used generator from a fellow who thought he would need it after the Y2K bug kicked in. I paid a quarter of what it would have cost me in the store.

    I still remember well, about a while back when conservatives were calling me names for not agreeing with them that Jim Acosta had hit an aide as she went for a microphone. When the video that got them in an uproar was clearly doctored.

    What about taxes paying for themselves. I guess it explains why the deficit rises as taxes are cut.

    And now the dreaded scary "antifa" is coming to get you. Better get yer gun cause ya got some serious snipe hunting to do.
     
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    Just keep pretending your comrades are heroes until you figure out you are on the wrong side of history.
     
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    So your girlfriend is a liar and you think it's funny.
     
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    ~ Very likely that is what Democrats want. "Trump the Dictator ! " chants will echo from Capitol Hill .
     
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    And did you support the Bundy's? Do you support these occupiers who have never occupied those properties? What about those private law abiding citizens who have property and/or live there. Where is their protection from this anarchist mob which we already know is willing to engage in violence and burings?

    How about this when you were discussing the Bundy's

    What about

    It started with these political anarchist kooks and their a$$ backwards interpretation of the constitution and reality in general. They are out there everyday acting like they know what they were talking about, as if somehow their little collection of nutjobs, feeling big with their guns and molotov cocktails and bricks and cement filled tennis balls and rocks, and bags of feces and urine were going to dictate to the local/federal government and everybody else what was going to be. I would love to see their faces when the FBI takes them into custody. I mean how stupid can they be.

    You also agree with that?
     
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    Actually I get a kick out of slapping conservatives with a little dab of reality from time to time. It has a lot to do with the fact that belief is an emotional affair. Right wing media has convinced you that the "antifa" is other than it is and those ideas have merged with other anti left messaging that many conservatives have internalized over the years. Yet the left, and the situation in Seattle is quite different than as how conservatives would like to "believe" they are. A little splash of reality causes an emotional response.

    These demonstrations have demonstrated a few things. Like the fact that Republicans prefer a strong authoritarian police force to quash dissent. And that Trump is a weak, ineffectual leader. The longer the protest drag on, the worse Trump looks. The worse Republicans look defending the indefensible. And that once again, conservatives can get all riled up on things that don't really square with reality.
     
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    Give them 12 hours to vacate, instruct all other residents to either leave or take secure shelter and await for rescue and set up temporary shelter for them offsite. Then send in the combined police and National Guard will full non-lethal force but prepared to use lethal force it lethal force is used against them including having bricks and heavy rocks and molotov cocktails tossed at them. This group has not only violated pages of laws by just "occupying" they are extorting the law abiding private citizens who live there for "protection" and also subject them to search and seizures. And everyone they catch inside that area gets arrested and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

    THIS CANNOT STAND, where is the mayor and the governor? These people are in danger. and there are anarchist engaged in sedition. It is THEIR responsibility to put a stop to it.
     
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    There are probably a thousand or more private law abiding citizens living there, you can't put them under siege. They have to be fed, they have to have water, they have to have communications. If the authorities try to blockade say large shipments of food they can determine are for the anarchist they can seize those but those criminals are already extorting the law abiding citizens and will just take their food.
     
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    I have a degree in marketing. I wish I was involved in creating the ads for Trump and against the Democrats this fall. It would be like shooting fish in a barrel.

    There are literally hundreds of opportunities to create commercials humiliating the left.
     
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    I don't care what you call them these criminal anarchist need to be put down and put down without prejudice if they resist lawful authority. They are placing hundreds of innocent law abiding citizens in danger and preventing local lawyer enforcement from protecting them.

    This can't stand.
     
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    So it IS the local citizens who are burning down and looting the local businesses and attacking white citizens.
     
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    If this fantasy of yours and FOX Network was true that any group ANTIFA, BUGALOO, CAUCASIAN BROTHERHOOD, or the LDS - Lesbian Defense Squad took over even one block of a major city that would have caused an earthquake.
     
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    The irony is overwhelming. The local police chief said they were extorting the law abiding residents at the gates for protection.
     
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    Becoming the very thing they protest.
     
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    As if Antifa and local citizens are the only possibility. No need to be intentionally obtuse.
     
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    Leftist anarchist.
     
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    Leftist anarchist what? Are doing the looting and other property destruction? Maybe leftist, maybe anarchist, maybe just opportunist. As long as we're prepared to recognize that the peaceful protesters are separate from the looters and rioters, call them whatever you want, I guess.
     
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    I think that all of those who cause destruction and are looting should be picked up and charged with crimes.

    But the main protest in Seattle has nothing to do with looting or destruction. It is why the police have been able to stay away. Across the country the protest had a great deal to do with police brutality. The response from far too many police has been more police brutality. It was decided in Seattle, that rather than send in the shock troops, they just let the peaceful protests play out.

    It is not like a real occupation. In the evening most protestors go home and sleep in their own beds. And return the next day. It is most likely mostly the homeless who are sleeping there, if anyone. It is more of a 24 hour protest that the city is going to let go for now.

    They have long had free speech zones in Seattle. Places where one can climb upon the soap box and say anything they want
     
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    Wait...you mean it's bullshit?
     
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    Was it not that long ago that consevartives were arguing that they couldn't depend on the state to protect them? That so many conservatives are advocating military violence on peaceful demonstrators says a lot about the conservative mindset.

    I, like Thomas Jefferson did, think that liberty and democracy benefit from an occasional uprising to keep things on track. To remind people of their freedoms and how the state often stifles those freedoms for way too many citizens.
     
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    Matt Goetz spews so much BS you'd think he was running a fertilizer operation.
     
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