ANTIFA seizes 6 blocks in Seattle, and declares it a police free zone.

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  1. Gatewood

    Gatewood Well-Known Member

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    Pssst . . . peaceful protestors do not take over sections of a city and nor riot, loot, burn, mug, and occasionally murder.

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    Governor must request assistance.
     
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    Question that all of you who are urging the Bravado infected POTUS T to invade Washington State. Are those who are holding that abandoned police substation now rioting, or burning, or murdering, or looting, or attacking or killing people in the streets?

    I will help you guys--- no they are not at this time.

    Further help for you guys-- IF a big IF, things deteriorates the mayor does need to ask the governor for state police and if warranted the State National guard.
     
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You call a Manhattan-based magazine local news for Seattle? No link in that article mentions Antifa, just the author. Sounds like someone trying to stir up fear using the right's new bogeyman. When there are protests, there are opportunists who see a chance to do some damage and/or looting. No doubt those vandals are local citizens, but the vast majority of the people involved in the incident in the OP are peaceful protesters.
     
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    How do you arrive at that conclusion?
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly and these apparent Trump supporters are either not understand that or do not GAS and just want Yrump to commit murder by proxy.
     
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    That might soon occur. At some point even the blind lefty elected leaders have to accept lawless gangs over running neighborhoods is a public danger they have to deal with. With the alienation of the police forces it very well might fall back on others to take back the areas so law abiding citizens might be secure.

    Of course we have the Dem nominee talking about having the US Military having to drag the POTUS out of the White House, and that type of military use seems to be fine with the left.

    I guess the use of military is subjective to some.
     
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    It hit him in the head? No damage done there.
     
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    The governor/legislature/state does not need to ask for help.
    The President can act to, among other things:
    .....address an insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination or conspiracy, in any state, which results in the deprivation of Constitutionally-secured rights, and where the state is unable, fails, or refuses to protect said rights (§ 253).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection_Act_of_1807
     
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    So now they have "16" blocks under ANTIFALA control? When did they occupy the additional 10 blocks? I must have missed it.
     
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    My guess is you have missed a lot.
     
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    The incident? The one where they took over parts of a city and declared themselves above the law? That peaceful incident?

    And again as the local govt has no control of the area they have no ideal who is in it. The Pacific Northwest is an Antifa hot spot, stands to reason there night be a Antifa scumbag or two in that area....
     
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    Yep. Trump can make hell break lose there, but it cannot happen without governor asking for assistance. I think that's why generals freaked out. This doesn't mean rioters are good people, it just means enforcement of order is on locals until they request assistance.
    The more I think about it - these autonomous zones can spread only in states where local governments are willing to tolerate them. Real civil war can really start only if Trump uses force without legal precedent. He can also legally intervene if these goons topple the governor or Congress can remove reps and senators of the state if it fails to carry out elections, in which case the state would lose electoral votes too.

    Lately I've been sympathetic to Trump and I think he should just sit tight and let those goons make fools out of themselves. Well, he might also point out their stupidity to his advantage - after all, this IS the election year. Sometimes he really should count till 10 before he sends a tweet or says something. Current mess is almost 100% on democrats, he doesn't really need to do anything. Hope someone gives him similar advice.
     
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    Stop with the facts, they just muddle things up round here.
     
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    Me.
     
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    According to the Seattle Times everything in the CHAZ zone is quiet and peaceful no merchants have been exploited or blackmailed as right wing media and political candidates claim. One of the leaders of the group holding the CHAZ zone is a 19 year old black woman, from another Washington city, who just formed her group within the past ten or so days and it has now grown to over 500 followers.
     
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    Well what should be done about these secessionist traitors in Seattle?
     
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    Put your proof where you accusation is. Show me a link that proves that ANTIFALA occupies 16 blocks.
     
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    All they did was move some barriers around and say they're going to act to keep the peace in that area. The way the folks on here talk you'd think it was complete bedlam there, with raping and killing going on non-stop. I'm sure there is someone in the group who considers themselves to be part of Antifa, but since there aren't any fascist demonstrations going on, they aren't counter-demonstrating.
     
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    Sweet.

    I'm going to find me a few neighborhoods to peacefully take over illegally. I wanna be a warlord too!
     
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    They declared it their own little country, free of the rule of law. You are OK with that?

    And Antifa shows up to riot at college campus if they do not approve of the speaker. Stop with that nonsense they only show up to counter fascist demonstrations.
     
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    Common sense dictates they are there. Enough for me. Unless of course you can prove they are not. :)
     
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    Delete.
     
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    Yeah, according to the OP link, that's not what happened. They moved some barriers around and declared that the area was "the property of the people of Seattle" via a sign. Folks like you are blowing it up to be a larger thing than it is.

    They show up to protest fascist speakers. No fascist speakers at that part of Seattle, nor any fascist demonstrations, so no Antifa are demonstrating or outing themselves. For real, maybe get yourself a nightlight or something to scare away the Antifa that might be hiding under your bed.
     
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