Wikipedia as a tool to manipulate the public perception

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm trying to work this comment out, but failing. We know that the right prefers Facebook. The big data used allows for the finest sheep manipulation. However, we also know that other online sources- including Wikipedia- have frequently been used to benefit the right. Where's the left's win?
     
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    I don't think they are, I think it's reaching the tipping point because of online media. These days Joe blow with no degree in journalism can be a journalist, oftentimes they do better than TV. It's the old forms of media that the left completely owns. Newspapers television that's far left waste land. The internet and the various media sources available to it have offered a way for people to be skeptical because TV and newspapers aren't the only voice anymore.
     
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    I would say random posters on Facebook are probably more legitimate than CNN or any newspaper.
     
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    But that's irrelevant. Facebook, for example, changed their algorithms to ensure that political 'adverts' were more effective than Joe Pleb and his efforts to influence. We saw the consequences of that between the 2017 and 2019 elections.
     
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    I want to believe you are correct.

    But I think the Left has been extremely crafty over decades and have won over the young generation even though they have misled them completely.
    No one on the right has the stomach for a fight, and a fight is what it will take.

    As the older generation dies off, these self destructive young people will hand the far left victory after victory and will be all that's left......we're seeing it today as the 2nd gets ignored and
    people submit to demands for transforming America into a Socialist nightmare, like Venezuela.
     
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    But Facebook is dying. Probably because of this algorithm to censor content that Facebook operations doesn't like.
     
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    as my nephew says: Facebook is for old people...
     
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    they manage to do that because they own the school system. The availability of information to kids undermines this.
    really? I have a feeling you don't know a whole lot about the internet. It's a vast vast Network.
    the older generation is responsible for the far left even existed because they did nothing when the left came to the school and took them over they encourage young people to go to college ready get further indoctrinated with far-left nonsense.

    This dystopia that you envision in the future already happened, the left is squealing because they're losing ground.

    You should think around on the internet you'd be surprised what you would find. I can name five people you probably don't even know who they are. But they got far more views than even multiple networks combined.

    Me thinks you're a bit older and you remember a time before the internet was ubiquitous.

    But no the violent reactions you're seeing is the left losing control. Control the older generations surrendered to them.
     
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    The money invested suggests otherwise. But that's not the point. All of the online systems are money grabbers and therefore better suited to right wing influence. Its just the extent. Wikipedia, in contrast, has been cunning in pretending 'truth'
     
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    It is. I'm almost 40 and I was the first generation to be on Facebook. If I had children when I was 20 they would view Facebook the way I viewed my parents memories of the car hop.

    Most of the people that I know that use Facebook, use it for messaging. I'm very paranoid so I don't have any social media like that.
     
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    Upon the surface yes, but most of the elite wealthy are left-wing look at Hollywood. Mark Zuckerberg Jeff bezos Pichai.

    The Democrats are the party of the ultra-wealthy. That's how they control silicon valley.
     
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    Wikipedia hasn't been a reliable source on any topics remotely related to politics for at least a decade, maybe 15 years. This is because the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex and its dependent underclasses comprise a vast majority of the people who have enough time and mainly don't do enough actual WORK such that they can sit around editing wikipedia (or rather MISEDITING and vandalizing it). The Complex consists of overwhelmingly inferior, dishonest people with no principles, this is proven day by day and hour by hour today, but they do have one advantage in that they have most of the ignorant, narcissist school teachers in the world who sit around lying about this or that on wiki, so they have that going for them.
     
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    That's a drivel comment. They aren't left wing. They are liberal. Liberal in the US amounts to friendly looking right wing.

    Still no content. The Democrats aren't left wing. They haven't been in my life time. The wealthy protects conservatism. Its just social media, plus wikipedia, are geared to achieve that.
     
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    emotional outbursts aside it's true.
    no they're anti-liberal far left. We support socialism which is it absolutely anti-liberal. they support cultural Marxism which is absolutely anti-liberal.

    and if the right-wing went from conservative to liberal they switched 180 they have become more reasonable as the left has become more ridiculous.

    so why is it all the richest people in Hollywood support far leftism like BLM? And socialism?

    No the ultra-wealthy are socialist sorry that you don't understand reality. Maybe you fall in for conspiracy theory who knows.
     
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    Sorry the semantic grifting of the LW is all played out and has been for years. It's... the... same... thing, or rather distinguish them numerically or quantitatively. You won't because you can't. For over a century lying collectivists have happily leaped from vine to vine when the truth outs about their -self-identified- labels du jour such as communists, radicals, socialists, progressives, LW, "liberals"... no longer. You are -all- collectivists and it doesn't really make a damn what lie-label is attempted or dodged this week. The scam used to work pre net, no longer. Oops.

    What "content" do -you- ever post here? I've never read a single one of your posts that reflected a self-aware, accomplished adult possessing any material experience in pretty much anything in the private sector. Any chump can get a gov-job, it means you passed the mirror test. Yeah. So go back to transparently running the Rules for Radicals playbook, that's all played out too, and rapidly becoming counterproductive.
     
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    This is far right trope. Can't you do better than this ****?
     
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    Review my posts and then get back to me. Your effort at personal attack was child like.
     
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    I'm sorry I'm not part of your conspiracy theory.

    Maybe I'm just in on it.
     
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    I didn't use a metaphor or figurative language so this is a lie.
     
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    You can play pretend as much as you want. You've been found out using a far right trope. You should do the decent thing and apologise, unless of course you actually support those far right terrors.
     
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    I know better than you what I meant and it wasn't metaphorical or figurative.

    so you can lie to yourself and pretend that I'm pretending, lol. But I still know better than you.

    you keep using that word I don't think it means what you think it means.
    emotional manipulation does not work on me.

    I didn't use a trope who cares if I did and I'm not sorry.

    You can call me whenever names make you feel better.
     
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