Is America a racist society?

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Is America a racist society?

  1. Yes, incredibly so

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    25.0%
  2. Yes, to an extent

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  3. Neither here nor there

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  4. Overwhelmingly no

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  5. Not in the least

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  1. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you're 100% honest (or a Democrat), then it isn't racist. Of course we know that all blacks support Joe so that makes him not a racist, because as Joe said, "We choose truth over facts," and he's correct, again.

    Just like we know that all Trump supporters are white male cysgendered evangelical Christians (Boo!!!! Boo!!!! Hiss!!!!!)

    Any pictures you see of black, brown, Asian people, or women, at Trump rallies have either been cleverly photo-shopped...or he paid them to be there. No one likes Trump except for white racist men!

    I mean, just look at these white supremacist crackers. They ain't really black. It's trick photography.

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    My post stands firm, you couldn't refute it ….just got suspiciously defensive ;) ;)

    Oh, how white people have suffered! and still do to this day !!!! (sarcasm alert)
     
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    Especially the Germans.
     
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    I'll refute you, you're being absurd, black have suffered more at the hands of one another than anyone else. People who point out the flaws and self destructiveness in black society are not racist, they're realists and I think you'll find you can't scream them down any more.
     
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    What do the radical-Leftist negroes want? They want 'whitey' to give them everything, and then go back to Europe where he came from. Then they'll be free to turn the United States into one big CHICAGO! Wouldn't that be wonderful? :spin:

    [​IMG]. "If America wants to turn itself into a criminal insane asylum, why should we stop them...?"
     
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    No, Deni, I think he meant a BLACK-'black' president -- not a mulatto.
     
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    So back to the topic, how can America be a racist society when a black president was elected?
     
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    So back to the topic, how can America be a racist society when a black president was elected?
     
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    There is a huge problem with parenting. No amount of educational expenditure will counter what a child learns from his parent/parents in the early years.
     
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    Seems odd that anyone would say yes. From the ballot box of electing a black POTUS twice to the box office of some of the biggest sports and entertainment figures being black. When American society votes with ballots or dollars they seem to not let race be a deciding factor.

    It’s odd that the left says yes overall, then nominates Joe Biden of the “racial jungle” fame as their guy.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bu...ation-would-create-a-racial-jungle-2019-7?amp

    The man literally was advocating segregation. Weird choice Dems....
     
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    Cause us racist conservatives did not vote for him. But the fair and equally minded liberals did...and elected a racist as his VP.

    That’s the answer you will get. Well they will leave that last part out...
     
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    In reality White toward black, not so much, a myth. Black toward White very much so, just have to open your eyes.
     
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    I agree with that, but we do have poorer quality schools and educators in the impoverished inner-cities. While many school districts across the country have purchased computers for every kid in response to the Coronavirus push for online learning at home, impoverished kids across the country are being told "Sorry. Can't afford to buy you computers." That's not just black communities, but all poor areas.

    Beyond parenting, or in addition to good parenting, every child in America needs to start school with the same equipment and resources. Otherwise, the "race gap", which really boils down to an economic gap, will never give every person an equal opportunity to succeed.
     
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    All you had to do was watch the news..
     
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    Sheesh. Yes. Joe Biden is a throwback to the days when America was indeed a racist country. One of the last living racial dinosaurs.
     
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    So you believe the US is a racist society?
     
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    And, how about the 2008 and/or 2012 Obama voters who voted for Trump in 2016 (and likely cost Hillary the election in swing states).
     
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    Belief has nothing to do with it.
     
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    Well, that's the thread you're in. A racist society would not have elected a black president twice. Perhaps its less racist than the news would have you believe.
     
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    A society without bigots would never have elected Trump.

    You're trying to whitewash centuries of racism.

    It's amusing, but absurd.
     
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    A society of bigots would elect the Narcissist Obama. And did in fact.
     
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    Democrats and the media keep the race discussion alive for their political survival. What is interesting is that the Republican "response" to all Americans seems to be "Get a job. Earn a living, or else go homeless until you die," which is what most Americans do in real life outside of politics.

    Who is being left out of the conversation in politics today? Mostly poor (unemployed) white men, but all men who used to have skilled jobs, but not college-requirement types of jobs.

    Democrats' rhetoric is all about helping blacks, Hispanics, gays, lesbians, transgenders,and what is becoming last-place, women (unless she is a half black, half LatinX, lesbian, transgender woman). Democrats have become the racism party. Republicans have been talking to people who are able to find suitable work for survival. Republicans have been the "able-bodied" party for all races....if you're able to compete for fewer and fewer middle-class jobs.

    What if you're a poor "unable" white man? That "inability", for many, was created by Democrats and Republicans tag-teaming to send all our manufacturing jobs to countries across the pond or across the southern border for the last 30 years. No one was talking to those who lost those jobs here.

    So, Trump, talked to the skilled but not college-educated, unemployed people who wanted to be working (and who happened to be overwhelming white male mid westerners in the rust belt who swung the election). So...."Trump's a racist" (and so are his voters) because he won the "ignorant" white male vote. Imagine that narrative. Oh. That is the narrative today. Trump is actually the most centrist "classic liberal" of presidents we've have since before Bill Clinton started signing huge and uneven trade deals with China, Mexico and other countries and sold out the American workers. Before Clinton, the Democratic Party was the "workers" party.

    Now, you hear white men ( you evil, evil Trump supporters) speaking out fairly loudly about how Democrats only talk to blacks, Hispanics, gays, lesbians, transgenders,and lastly, cisgendered women. They are asking rather cynically, "Why can't I start a white men's group?" (And why can't they, really?) And what's the response from the left? "See I told you you're a racist, and you just proved it!!!!" LOL American politics 2020.

    By 2020, we should have already moved away from an American opportunity discussion based on racial skin color and moved to an equal opportunity metrics system based on economic class disparities. But that would likely kill the Democrat and the Republican parties and let us have a discussion on the real division: the presence or absence of real and achievable economic opportunity for all.
     
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    Rubber and glue, the very height of sophistication!
     
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    I understand your thoughts here, but a much bigger problem in schools are the attitudes of the student's peers. If the majority of those peers were not raised to value an education and were raised to have no respect for the educational system, access to computers will have zero effect. When the majority have been taught to not care about learning, the system itself cannot succeed and at that point, and everyone is just going through the motions. We need some way to separate the students who want to achieve something for themselves from those who don't. The students who have not been taught any respect simply become a disruption to the educational system, and learning stops. The school becomes a chaotic government-run daycare center.

    Perhaps a system needs to be put in place where a student has two options:
    1. An academic environment where discipline and study are stressed and required.
    2. Government run daycare where the student is not required to do anything.

    And if a student chooses #1, then fails to meet the discipline and study requirements, he is placed into #2.

    The majority of inner city schools are mostly #2 right now. And that is really sad for the students who actually care. We need an avenue for the students who care about their education to get out of that environment.
     
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    Trump's School Choice program is part of the solution, and could be a major part, if done properly. Federal dollars to charter schools which produce students who excel in education could give impoverished kids the opportunity to get the same private education as other economic classes. The downside is that those programs would necessarily select for exceptional and gifted students, and those are the students which are most likely to get out of the welfare trap regardless of any assistance.

    American Federation of Teachers could be disbanded or dis-empowered (reformed?). Just like police unions which will defend even police officers who commit murder and get them off the hook, the teachers' unions protect the jobs and pay of educators who might as well be illiterate and/or immoral. Once in, you can't get fired. We end up with lower and lower quality educators.

    The fact that "the environment" in inner-city slums has stayed the same and gotten worse over the last 55 years, since the Civil Rights Act passed and more so, since the LBJ welfare dependence program. The environment needs to change and that is a very complex societal problem for those impacted communities.
     
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