End the Scourge of White Supremacy

I watched part of the video, but why would you expect someone on the forum to take in a video of a guy talking for more than an hour?

 

Michelle ain't a guy, and I don't.

Somebody might, but the intellectually curious is not a deep bench here.

There is also a bit of one upmanship in my motivation.

 

Let's start with no laws need to be based on race. Ever. The government isnt here to make blacks better or whites better or any color, tone, or hue of any person better. They are here for the whole populous. Decisions need to be based off of financial income not skin color.

I am not opposed to all government intervention. I want less than current. I believe the government should encourage good behavior

 

That is an opinion not a fact.

 

Church Doctrine? Where?

Church Doctrine was a LOT more advanced than most people give it credit for. Galileo was actually impugned by a Church scholar who had been DEFENDING his views and who he then inexplicably turned on and wrote a piece which savagely satirized and embarrassed the man. In those days, when the status of your academic reputation might see you in prison, ignoring such an insult was impossible to ignore

Is it possible you are conflating the Earth being flat with the idea that the Sun moved and the Earth didn't? I have been told that the Earth being flat was a belief only held by unlettered peasants.

(and maybe the ancestors of some Internet trolls)

 

You were commenting on a video by a guy. I wan't talking about your video.

It's fine to present something like a one-hour video, but I don't think it's reasonable to draw conclusions about people who choose not to watch it.

 

I think you have a point.

This may have more to do with the Inquisition than with Doctrine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair

 

What makes it racist? I forgot, you guys on the left make a living calling things racist.

 

I agree with absolutely none of that.

 

You are correct about Church dogma, borrowed from the ancient Greeks, relating to the sun revolving around the earth. On the other hand, your other comments made me check into the issue of the prevalence of 'flat earth' beliefs in medieval Europe. I think a more complete description of the state of knowledge in medieval Europe would be as follows: in the early medieval period, actual knowledge on the issue was scant, with even the 'literate class' (meaning mainly the clergy) having an agnostic attitude on whether the earth is flat or spherical (describing the different views on the issue without taking sides). By the late medieval period, those who were better educated did have an understanding of the earth having a spherical shape.

In the Muslim world, on the other hand, despite a vague Koranic verse that could be interpreted as suggesting the earth is flat, all the Muslim scholars and literate classes understood that wasn't the case. For instance, in the 12th century, the Persian scholar, Razi (Rhazes), tried to bridge the apparent contradiction between a vague Koranic verse and scholarship on the issue as follows:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth

 

It may be economics at the under belly. The elitists in our country are the only ones benefiting from a global economy. The middle class is being hollowed out from their jobs being shipped offshore on one of your fancy container ships. Abusing citizens of poor countries as slave labor that they no longer need to keep on plantations here in the US.

The intermingling is not natural. It did not start happening until western countries decided to kick their doors open to the third world and offer them handouts. Before that people came to the west for opportunities to improve their own life. Now they do it because they are poor and the western elites have promised to give them handouts in exchange for votes. Flood their countries with low IQ people who are not concerned with anything beyond their immediate need. Now that they are so heavily represented in this country, Somalia congresswomen and all, they can easily manipulate their new electorate to get hyped up over police violence that happens to all races while they gut the country economically on the side. No whites today want to oppress anybody. That is a narrative that the elites need to make everyone believe because it's just morally wrong. No good person could go against it. However they now attach any political issue to race grievance and use it to manipulate the masses that no longer love this country.

 

No, you got is wrong. How many lefties favor school vouchers, a strong military, former Senator Coburn's health care plan, etc?

 

Agreed. At this particular time in history, English has primacy. And given that it is proving to express a multitude of divergent and convergent ideas, swirling in a sea seeking syntheses and it does that under the protection of free speech, what does it matter that it's a white persons language expressing white persons ideologies?

 

English, like every other language, can and will evolve the reflect the 'ideologies' of the various cultures and ideas that use it to express their thoughts, emotions and culture. The same way 'Arabic' was once the lingua franca of the Muslim world, initially the language of the "real" Arabs from the Arabian peninsula but eventually the language of everyone they conquered (except the Iranian people) who also became "Arab" regardless of what tribe they had belonged to previously or what language they had spoken until then. In fact, the same way the initial "Indo-European languages", the family of languages which English belongs to, became the languages of the peoples in Europe, evolving into different languages itself, even though its origins (modern scholars tell us) can be found among a group of people called the "Yamnaya people" who might be called "white" but who certainly were not Nordic. (In Iranian mythology, including in Iran's national epic, the Shahnameh, the "Yamnaya people" were simply the original "Aryans" or Iranians).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamnaya_culture

 

Lack of ability to analyse a problem is no excuse to cling onto false dogma.

As economist John Kenneth Galbraith said in his treatise on money:

“The study of money, above all other fields in economics, is one in which complexity is used to disguise truth or to evade truth, not to reveal it. The process by which banks create money is so simple the mind is repelled. With something so important, a deeper mystery seems only decent.”

From “Money: Whence it Came, Where it Went”, 1975 by J.K. Galbraith

 

Yes....in that ALL poverty derived from systemic unemployment, which by the way affects blacks disproportionately - as measured by the NAIRU in our current economic system - needs to be eradicated. The private sector ALONE cannot make this happen.

Well then maybe you are open to learning:

http://understandingcanada.ca/2019/11/much-ado-about-1974-the-bank-of-canada-in-the-70s/

..... here’s the main reasons EVERYONE should care about reforming the monetary system:

1. WE’RE BEING LIED TO. Not necessarily intentionally, most politicians have been deeply indoctrinated in neoliberal logic, through their education and institutional experiences (the Washington Consensus is a great example), and very few understand even the rudimentary basics of the monetary system, so it’s very likely they don’t even know they are spreading a falsehood. Every time a (Canadian) federal politician says “We don’t have the money”, it's a lie.
2. We are being denied much needed public works and services in order to maintain and strengthen the supremacy of the private sector while weakening and gutting the public sector. Politicians spend time cutting taxes, starving the government of revenue for growth that is never realized (except for the growth in profits of corporations and the wealthy), privatize public assets on the cheap for one-off payouts, and then they turn around and tell us regular folk we must tighten our belts and accept austerity.
3. The truth is that technically speaking the federal government doesn’t require a dime in taxes to continue spending on the public, they could provide us any funding we need for infrastructure or services. This isn’t to say we can spend on everything we’ve ever wanted, there are still real constraints like availability of resources and labour, and we do need to watch for inflation, but the lie of austerity is laid bare when certain favoured sectors receive subsidies and tax breaks while necessary public spending falls by the wayside. Chomsky said it best, “That’s the standard technique of privatization: defund, make sure things don’t work, people get angry, you hand it over to private capital.” We are being denied funding for needed public works for no other reason than neoliberal ideology prioritizing the largest players in the private sector, trying to ensure any public project profits them.

As economist John Kenneth Galbraith said in his treatise on money:

“The study of money, above all other fields in economics, is one in which complexity is used to disguise truth or to evade truth, not to reveal it. The process by which banks create money is so simple the mind is repelled. With something so important, a deeper mystery seems only decent.”

From “Money: Whence it Came, Where it Went”, 1975 by J.K. Galbraith

To learn more:

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/mmt-overcoming-the-political-divide.569365/

 

The 'frauds' that are perpetuated by the monetary systems pegged to the US dollar (and other 'convertible currencies) are not merely the ones someone like Galbraith would have wanted to emphasize. They also involve a bigger fraud which you like to ignore and avoid. The whole system is fraudulent. And the system only works because of many things I presume (as someone from the left) you would not endorse.

Regardless of this new religion you have picked up through MMT theory or whatever, as Galbraith would have conceded himself, the US can run deficits and more without much consequence such as devaluation. That is as long as the overall production of goods and services traded in the US Dollar and demand for it globally (not just based on what is produced in the US), outstrips the supply of money being printed (or 'digitally transferred'). When the overall supply exceeds the overall demand from production worldwide, the issue becomes complicated as even then, as long as the 'illusions' about the Ponzi scheme aren't totally fractured, you might still be able to run these deficits without that much devaluation. (Not clear, because empirically, I don't think we have reached the point yet, as the overall production traded in US dollars globally by virtue of the role of US dollar as the currency of international trade/reserve currency of central banks around the world, appears still to be higher than the money supply in US dollars).

The problem with your new religion, however, is that you miss the forest for the trees. Nothing about monetary theory can change basic human practices. The "material control' of people requires that they have a real incentive to learn the 'tricks' government/society wants them to learn. And that 'material control' requires also class divisions. The issue, in any form of capitalist society, will be: what is the best way to increase production of the pie? What is the best way to distribute the pie that is being produced? The real answers take you deep into areas which you want to avoid. Until then, if you are content with living under a fraud, the fraud constructed by the US political and economic hegemony has been, more or less, popularized and "more or less" working. Before you break this racket, you better have a clear idea what is to actually replace it.

p.s.
To be sure, my own 'laws of capitalist motion' (different than Marx's) tell me that the system will collapse one day. It won't necessarily be because of the 'contradictions' which Marx sometimes correctly and sometimes not as correctly, identified. But the collapse will come because, ultimately, I have 'faith' that all frauds will be exposed. And the path of truth will always find a way to take us forward, even if its pace is so slow that it will certainly be a "long term" proposition -- the kind of "lng term' which John Maynard Keynes famously quipped, "we are all dead".

 

In your post you merely add complexity to explain what you see as the fraud.

At its base - simply put - the fraud depends on hiding the truth from the population that government can also create and spend money into an economy, alongside money creation and spending in the private sector, both sectors being constrained by available resources and (actual or potential) productive capacity of the economy.

....in every nation on the planet.....

 

Not quite. The 'actual or potential' productive capacity of the "economy" (which, given the role of the US dollar, becomes actually the global economy that trades in it), tends to become very "unproductive" things.

What is the 'real value' in what is produced? For me, it is neither the "labor theory of value" that Marx analyzed exhaustively. Nor the 'value' that arises from the dynamics of the laws of supply and demand in a capitalist society.

To have a clear idea of the answer to that question, would then guide us in whether we are merely trying to put some temporary bandage over a wound that won't heal so easily, or whether we are looking for a real cure for the ailment.

 

eg, look at the "real value" of 13th century French gothic cathedrals, splendid even today for their astounding artistry and engineering, the production of a public sector inspired by a communal desire (at a time of universal belief) to make manifest the glory of God, in the finest art and architecture possible, given the available technology.

Compared with the more practical, prosaic production of profit (money)- seeking, competitive individuals, in the private sector.

All individuals are creative, competitive, self-aggrandizing - and to a lesser extent altruistic - to varying degrees.

Occam's razor says the best way to harness all these various human characteristics - in order to maximise human development - is achieved by money creation* within public AND private sectors existing side by side.

*non-interest bearing, or 'debt-free' money, in the case of money created in the public sector. See MMT.

Addressed above.

 

I have a different answer in some or many ways. It will take time to develop mine. But they are definitely not about MMT and such!

 

I disagree with your false dogma. Sorry, get over it.

 

I don't know. How many? Is any of that related to racism?

 

Without any attempt at analysis.......

 

I analyzed your words and disagree with them.