Tracking the COVID-19-Virus in Germany, the USA, Italy and other hot spots in the world

You are frosting a moldy cake.

What is Sweden’s current percentage of population who have developed Covid19 antibodies?..... AND THE SOURCE of your info.

 

Look at the world-o-meter statistics. That is the source.

 

Look at the statistics. When other nations open up they will look like Sweden just as the US is now.

You won't see any honest herd immunity data reported by the media. The last I saw was in April when it was at ~ 35%. But the data shows the story and the effects of herd immunity.

 

In the worldwide analysis for 2020-07-004, I indicated that today, 2020-07-005, India would surpass Russia in total C19 cases and assume rank 3.

Here is how the statistics looked at end of day on 2020-07-004:




And now:



Indeed, India has now surpassed Russia, assuming rank 3, behind Brasil and the USA.

 

https://www.post-gazette.com/news/health/2020/07/05/covid-19-coronavirus-Allegheny-County-Western-Pennsylvania-cases-deaths-data-pandemic-35/stories/202007050115

hmmmmmmmmm......

 

Western PA hosts the State's capital(Harrisburg) as you can tell from the newsletter linked. I always personally thought it was a weird place(having visited just once.) There's a lot of farming in Western Pennsylvania, and it's not really a big industrial place like Philadelphia. You'd think Philly would be the state Capital, but no it's Harrisburg.

So rural areas are starting to feel that pinch from coronavirus, but I still think the hope is valid that it might not reach NYC-level proportions because there's natural distance in housing in those rural areas, etc. But there's also only a few stores and such in those areas, so people might be crammed when they get food and the likes.

 

As you can see from above, Florida crossed over the 100,000 C19 line on Monday, 2020-06-022.

Here again the screenshot:



And now, today, Sunday, 2020-07-005, 13 days later, Florida has again added more than +10,000 new C19 cases and gone over the 200,000 line:



It took Florida four months to get the the first 100,000, and then less than 1/2 month to add the next 100,000..... this is what we call exponential growth, folks.

If Florida keeps up this pace, then it will surpass New York in 6 weeks, in terms of total C19 cases.

Unrelated but important: if you look at the screenshot again, look at Arizona. Very likely, Arizona will go over 100,000 C19 cases tomorrow, 2020-07-006.

 

I was in Pittsburgh a lot, used to live in Youngstown, right across the border.

 

I am afraid to say, but the 4th of week end will have a rather bad impact and will make Memorial look like childs play.

 

So exponential growth is when the rate is constant?(IE: They've been adding 10,000 new cases for the last 2-3 weeks or so)

It seems to me that since Florida is exponential, everything should shut down there now.

 

Anything over a regular +9.5% to 10% growth rate is considered exponential. 50% is a horror scenario. What has just happened is that Florida had a +100% growth rate over 13 days. In terms of monthly growth, that is extremely exponential.. But...the exact growth rate per day would depend on how many +cases that day, divided by the total from the day before. For instance, right now, Florida just added +10,059 cases. the total cases for Florida yesterday was: 190,052. 10,059 / 190,052= 0.0529 = 5.3% growth rate. So, Florida grew 5.3% in cases from July 4th to July 5th. The daily growth is not exponential, but rather, high logistical. The monthly growth rate is going to be massively exponential. So, the point is: it depends upon which time frame you choose to use to measure it. It also depends on how large the total is to begin with. 1 million dollars is a lot of money, but for a guy with 100 billion, that 1 million is less than pocket change. PERSPECTIVE.

One thing is for sure: Florida is about to experience a massive spike in deaths, starting in the next 4 weeks and probably going well through Labor Day.

Florida never really shut down to begin with and since Ron DeSantis really doesn't give a **** whether people live or die, he is surely not going to close down the state. So, Floridians are going to work their way toward herd immunity the hard way, which will invariably mean more deaths.

Sad but true.

 

Thanks for helping me to understand that And an even bigger thanks that despite my math illiteracy to allow me to continue participating in this very important thread. I guess, the one benefit to allowing an open spread is that theoretically, as viruses infects more people(and mutates), supposedly it gets weaker with each mutation.(On paper anyway)

Not sure if the coronavirus fits this mold or not, but if the deaths don't pick up in the next four weeks maybe that's a possible sign of the virus weakening.

 

Apparently, a new side-effect pheonomenon of COVID-19 is starting to appear among people who caught the virus in March/April and then slowly recovered.

Now, about 10 weeks later, among a growing number of them who had lost their sense of smell while they were sick with the virus back then, those same people are starting to complain that they are now experiencing "ghost" smells, in other words, they smell something like, say, a chicken soup and all of a sudden they smell something 'inside' the smell, a second smell that should not be present. Apparently, it can be quite irritating.

I'm not a neurologist nor have I studied neuro, so I asked a friend of mine who is a neurosurgeon in Bonn about this. He himself caught COVID-19 at the beginning of March. He told me that this definitely sounds like a neurological phenomenon and that he himself started experiencing it starting about 10 days ago.

So, I asked around again if the "ghost" smell was more sweet or more salty/sour and the four people I asked (including the neurosurgeon) all told me that the ghost smell was essentially the opposite of the main thing they were smelling at that time, which rules out the rank smell of an infection in the nose or in the sinuses that can appear when you are smelling something.

I am writing this here and asking PFers who may either have contracted C19 or who know someone who has to ask them about this. If you have any information about this, please quote this posting and write your thoughts.

This is causing me to wonder if there are going to be more unpleasant surprises concerning COVID-19 and the human brain.

Thanks,

Stat

 

We’re certainly not going to see exponential economic growth. My research shows minimum 20% of Florida’s economy is KAPUT til next year, and the main reason; Short term gains, long term pains.

Other reason; DeSantis is a Prez ass-kissing Governor.

.......and I hate ass- kissers.

 

I don’t think Trump could lie straight in bed.

 

This is going to economically impact us, regardless of Trump or Biden. To me, it's the lethal combination of the temporary shutdowns(that might be with us for a longer duration if we keep adding cases like this) along with the stimulus into a dead economy.
Money is normally backed, what was once backed by the gold standard(or other precious metals) is today backed with the very same financial activity that is now limited due to the virus.

So this isn't a Trump thing or a Biden thing, this is gonna be with us. In Finances at least, I can strut my stuff a little lol.

 

Yes - epidemiologists are absolutely studying the crap out of this.

They have long reprted that there are a number of different strains in America and continue to track their progress across the US and the world. They noted that the COVID19 strainsf we have today have come from Europe, for example. Only WA and CA have had any significant representation from those coming ddirectly from China.

They've also found that new strainst they are tracking have include those that appear to be less lethal - an explanation for dropping death count.

However, they are also saying that death is not the only long term damage done to a human by COVID. So, dodging death doesn't mean back to previous health.


Anyway, I'm really glad to see interest in the science of this and any other contagion.

So far, our national approach has been based in near total disdain for anything even slightly related to science. In fact, Trump has promoted an anti-science view in every response right up to today, with his "hate China" policy - a policy that is not just absolutely and totally unwarranted, but is actually destructive of moves to head off similar pandemic in the future - regardless of where it might come from.

America used to be all about science and technology. What the HECK happened to us?

 

I accept that. Our economy has shown an ability to bounce - and by some measures very well. For example, manufacturing output returned to pre-crash levels by about a year after the Bush crash.

BUT, it has NOT bounced back well for those in the lower income brackets. And, that has been true for recessions and crashes going back throughout the 1900s.

Today, there would need to be real work done to keep that from happening again, and this administration is NOT EVEN SLIGHTLY interested in how this impacts working America. I mean, Trump has taken strong action AGAINST working Americans struggling in this economy over the last months. Those projecting a fast recover clearly ignore the MAJORITY of Americans.

FL and other states prove that ignoring the science of pandemic and what it advises concerning reducing COVID19 is NOT A SOLUTION for our economy.

What shocks me is that we HAVE a solution advised by medical science for opening our economy - it's sitting there on whitehouse.gov. But, it's being TOTALLY ignored. In fact, Trump has stopped the federal government's role in even just providing the necessary products that would allow governors to buck the trend promoted by Trump


The "just hate China" solution Trump advocates so loudly is not just an economic filalure - it's anti science and morally corrupt as well.

 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/openingamerica/

These are the guidelines you're talking about right? They make sense, but as stipulated above it's mostly at the governor's discretion. How can the President further enforce these rules? Should there be federally hired contact tracers? How does the white house assure more swab tips can be made for testing? Again, a lot of these issues are logistic.

I don't think there's an appreciation for this problem yet, no one can wave a magic wand. It will NOT get better just because Joe Biden is president. We'd have to see these companies and hospitals develop more testing, quicker and faster. It'd also help if China didn't outright buy everything during the pandemic or that we sold ourselves off to them manufacturing wise to begin with.

Why isn't there criticism on Chinese hordeing? If we criticize Trump, let's at least criticize everyone involved.

 

Hmmmmmm....

https://brownvalleyobserver.com/202...r-covid-19-in-new-hampshire-jail-doj-reports/

I'll wait for independent verification of this.... hmmmmmmmmm....

 

Quote; To me, it’s a lethal combination of.....

To me, the KKK strategy is the best proven winning strategy, however, yesterday and today, realistically not implementable/sustainable in the U.S.

Keep working
Keep wearing masks
Keep your distance

Therefore, let’s keep rehearsing until we get it right.

 

The irony of 'KKK' being in the US in a positive light(the only other positve light being strikeouts in baseball.) The light laughter is what we need in these times.

 

Trump can promote the plan that he had his administration CREATE!! Why would ne NOT?

Instead he promotes AGAINST it while also not taking action that makes it more possible for states. So, today no state can execute that plan.

Trump has far more logistical support at his disposal than does any state. He also has the Defense Production Act. States don't have equal access to testing materials, and Trump has said that he has removed that from federal concern.

As for contact tracing, Trump has show NO interest, besides not helping with the required training (through CDC or ??) states have to actually overcome his leadership in this area in order to get legislatures to do this stuff.

Blaming our situation on China hording is PREPOSTEROUS. Europe is doing what we have failed at in spectacular fashion. It had NOTHING to do with China hording - even if it turns out they did so. Besides, Trump has had multiple opportunities to produce PPE, vets, etc. here in the US and failed to do so. He killed bids from those wanting to build/refurbish machines capable of one million N95 masks per day on two separate occassions - one in 2018 and one last January.

You of all people know we favor capitalism.and we're going to buy stuff from other countries when they produce the same quality for less money. When for defense purposes (disease, military, etc.) we want something built in America our governmnet has to take action AGAINST capitalism. Trump has refused to do that.

 

It will get better with Biden as president, because Biden will not be the ROADBLOCK TO PROGRESS that Trump absolutely is in several very important ways related to this disease.

And, that includes for the future, too. Trump's "blame China, hate China" approach prevents rational improvements that need to be made here, in China and in other places in the world so that we are more secure against this happening again. This is an area where Trump absolutely will not improve

The reason is that change would have to be far too fundamental.
- he'd have to change his mind about the importance of well crafted policy. In NO arena has Trump accepted that.
- he'd have to change his mind about American going it alone, and instead promote world wide cooperation through WHO, etc. Again, Trump has shown ZERO interest in working with allies on ANY topic.
- he'd have to decide not to hate China and work with Xi to rejoin and expand their effort in Wuhan and to duplicate that effort in the ME, Africa and other places where new disease enters the human population. This would be a clear flip flop of a type Trunp especially hates.
- he'd have to recognize the importance of science. Given his record of statements and actions related to COVID it is clear that he sees science as his enemy - just one that he can't so easily fire as he can others who have serious experience and knowledge.

Trump just can't make those changes. Nobody should even ask him to. Those are fundamental to the person we elected, not some sort of polish that he might learn to apply.

 

I don't think we have to take action against 'capitalism'(and I hold capitalism, ie: capital is the fiat function of the dollar. It is not a governing system or principle in of itself.) It's just a slogan. And that's also the same reason I stopped being a Liberal. I'm tired of slogans. Slogans don't do anything. Slogans and purity tests just make you look like you're doing something. I want real action.

I think the biggest thing we can do, is promote private growth here at home. We have millions of Americans with unique ideas and skillsets, and allowing them to own more private industry would strengthen our overall economy. Look at what Shark Tank does,
imagine if the efforts of one stakeholder can be duplicated by the entire government and by private industry. As I've stated earlier, we have a 90% worker/10% entrepreneur split.

I want that to be a 60% Entrepreneur/40% Worker split. That will allow for more hiring, it will also allow for higher capital for ALL Americans and a general massive rise in income. It would be the biggest financial undertaking since the New Deal.