Can we be ready to open schools in the Fall?

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  1. MJ Davies

    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

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    Correct. I was referring to those that are profiting off the research and vaccine development. It seems like a conflict of interest to me. And, the other side is do we really want a vaccine that has been rushed through the approval process? Yikes.
     
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    Not enough credible alternative candidates for that to happen. Alas.
     
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    there are many unemployed American's from covid, the alternative candidates for these government jobs are many.
     
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    How do we, as civilians, get that ball rolling? It's a long history and deep in corruption in there.
     
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    When did they stop paying Members of Congress during the Wuhan China Virus Pandemic?
     
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    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    find a welfare queen who wants a government job

    members of congress have higher pay grades than traditional welfare recipients.
     
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    Silly boy..
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    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, geez!

    Now, with every school and politicians, the 100 of millions of dollars funneled into the 'bot-nets propaganda from the billionaires and Republican shills, the President can just be ineffective and his usual failure rhetoric without committing himself (or his Republicans kiss-butts) and let the paid Right Wing persuade Americans to sacrifice America's children and older people for billionaires profits!

    Sadly, the children are now dying younger, and the "old folks" who initially over 60 yo and now they oldsters are now dying at 40!
     
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    We have to wait for CDC report not a Twitter.
    Still it does not make sense.
    What is a reason of the sudden increase of so many cases comparing to other countries?
    What would be the real numbers if political and financial incentives are eliminated?
    If people are paid for reporting COVID-19 they will continue report more and more.
    There is absolutely no obligation to report accurate data or responsibility for the false data reporting.

    Here is an official chart.
    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
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    All of a sudden Trumpers are relying on the CDC after ignoring their recommendations for how to open safely
     
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    Trumpers aside, do you agree that something is fishy with all that COVID reporting in the MSM?

    Here is better picture from CDC. It clearly shows that death moving average went down in June due to misreporting in April and May.
    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
     
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    There is nothing about that chart which shows that the deaths were being misreported in April and May.
     
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    There goes your credibility.
    Deaths are not declining.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

    Look at chart of new deaths. Even use the 7 day moving ave. The deaths are ticking back up.
     
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    Deaths had been going down since mid April. When all the guidelines were put in place and took effect.
    They are now heading back up after all the reopenings.
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
     
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    Incumbents aren't credible.
    So, it doesn't matter.
     
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    IMO, credible challengers would be needed to beat all incumbents.
    That is not impossible.
     
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    Not if the voters just revolt and vote against all incumbents. Since IMO, the entirety of congress needs a reset.

    Start from scratch.
     
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    That will never happen until an opposition finds enough credible candidates, and that would not be hard - for a credible opposition.
     
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    Huh?

    "All the MSM reporting" about a pandemic that has killed 135,000 people in this country alone already?

    I don't think so
     
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    "Members of Congress": Welfare Queens
     
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    they do close enough for government work

    welfare queens are unemployed.
     
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    I am far from convinced that Members of Congress do more productive work than other Welfare Queens.
     
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    welfare queens are idle and they work productively in the devil's workshop.
     
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    You are very persuasive.
    IOW, Welfare Queens are Members of Congress.
     
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    That paper shows that the the COVID19 months show a surge in the number of deaths in the US that is not explained by COVID19 death counts.

    The question becomes one of figuring out what accounts for all those excess deaths.

    One of the main sources seems to be people who died of COVID19 outside of a hospital facility that does reporting (for instance, at home, in care facilities, etc.). There are reasons these have not all been counted. There aren't enough tests to waste on dead bodies. Places like care facilities are common places where people die without benefit of there even being a doctor around. Etc.

    We may be getting better with correctly attributing some of these sources of deaths.

    But, the fact remains that this year there has been a significant and unexplained rise in the number of deaths in the USA, and there is reason to believe that it is because of the undercount COVID19 deaths.
     

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