Subsaharan African Average IQ - a global, undeniable phenomenon

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  1. bringiton

    bringiton Well-Known Member

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    No, your point is just of marginal significance.
    But so are poverty stricken areas outside of Africa, like Pakistan, the Philippines, Myanmar, and Honduras that do not have such low IQ scores.
    While American kids in poor homes are much more likely to be malnourished than kids in affluent homes, they are still quite unlikely to be malnourished to the point of impairing their cognitive development.
    Of course, but the lower scores are also observed in people who were not malnourished in infancy, and don't appear to have suffered any other environmental factor known to cause cognitive impairment, either.
    True, and in some cases, like iodine and vitamin A deficiencies, the cost of effective intervention is microscopic relative to the achievable benefits.
    No, that's nonsense with no basis in fact. Evolution runs on gene frequency differences between populations, and the notion that human evolution towards higher intelligence reached its end many thousands of years ago when all populations somehow reached genetic equality in intellectual potential is self-evidently absurd.
     
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    Your problem here is that you are not dealing with the factual reality that the link provides, but rather the promoting your supposition and conjecture as a factual counter. It's a scientific FACT that malnutrition contributes greatly to detrimental cognitive reasoning development, among other things. Try as you might, you can't logically and factually support the bias conclusions regarding race & IQ.
     
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    Every other place on Earth manages to feed itself. What is different about Africa? IQ perhaps?
     
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    Democrats are most assuredly of the human species. How dare you even ask?
     
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    African Negroes have IQ averages of 70. American Negroes have averages of 85. To an extent this is because they benefit from living in a country run by whites. To an extent this is because most American Negroes have some white ancestry.
     
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    So, how do you explain the Africans who come to the USA to attend college and become doctors, nurses and college professors? (I know some personally).

    P.S. There is no such thing as Negroes. And Africans have NEVER called themselves Negroes.
     
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    It is to Richard Lynn that we owe the estimate that African Negroes have IQ averages of 70. He made a study of the available evidence of IQ averages of many different countries. You can find the results of his study here:

    https://www.worlddata.info/iq-by-country.php

    Needless to say Richard Lynn has been called a "racist." Nevertheless, his estimates correlate well with test results garnered by "The Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA) [which} is a worldwide study by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) in member and non-member nations intended to evaluate educational systems by measuring 15-year-old school pupils' scholastic performance on mathematics, science, and reading."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programme_for_International_Student_Assessment
     
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    The African Negroes who come to the United States come from the far right of the African Negro IQ bell curve. They are in no way characteristic of African Negroes.
     
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    Most white people have African ancestry.
     
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    Then practice!
     
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    Soil, heat, lack of fertilizers and farming equipment...just for starters.
     
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    Because their morals are deplorable, their leadership unconscionable, and their beliefs unthinkable.
     
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    Smart people know how to build farm equipment and make fertilizer.
     
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    MUST BE THEIR LACK OF THE
    Neanderthal Experience / Genome
    SHARED BY EURASIANS


    Moi
    :oldman:




    So What Explains :flagcanada:s
     
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    No, that's false. I identified the relevant facts and their logical implications.
    And it's also a scientific FACT that population IQ differences are still significant when examining populations that have not been raised in food poverty, and for whom malnutrition could therefore not have been a significant factor in realization of their intellectual potential.
    What "bias" conclusions? The facts are indisputable. We are now discussing the causes and interpretation of those facts. If anything demonstrates bias it is the premise that there could not possibly be any difference in population frequencies of genes associated with intellectual ability. It's just outright unscientific nonsense contrary to everything we know about evolution, especially human evolution.
     
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    Two reasons: there is more genetic diversity in sub-Saharan Africa than anywhere else, so we can expect more IQ variance; and the more intelligent an African is, the more likely they are both to be motivated to try to go to the USA and to succeed in getting there.
    Negro just comes from the Latin for black.
     
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    Those above subsistence-level, perhaps. But I'd like to see someone living in a mud hut try to build a combine-harvester.
     
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    I'm sure someone already mentioned this, but to reiterate: IQ tests are largely bullshit. If a team of sub-Sahara African scholars created an IQ test, it's white folks who would be scoring a 70 average on it.
     
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    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar...for significant lifelong functional morbidity.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/1602103/

    So not ONLY does childhood MALNUTRITION impact IQ levels for entire LIFETIMES it has a knock on IMPACT that harms the IQ of their children too.

    But you just hand wave it all away as being "marginal"?

    Sad!
     
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    That bovine excrement "study" has been DEBUNKED as racist drivel.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/01/100121155220.htm

     
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    It is what it is.
    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country
    seen these charts for a long time.
     
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    The human brain seems to adapt to environment, The intellectual skills of tribal peoples are well honed to the conditions they confront.

    The Battle of Isandlwana

    "The British and colonial troops were armed with the modern[16] Martini–Henry breechloading rifle and two 7-pounder mountain guns deployed as field guns,[17][18] as well as a Hale rocket battery. Despite a vast disadvantage in weapons technology,[19] the Zulus ultimately overwhelmed[20] the British, killing over 1,300 troops, including all those out on the forward firing line. The Zulu army suffered anywhere from 1,000 to 3,000 killed.[21][22]

    The battle was a decisive victory for the Zulus and caused the defeat of the first British invasion of Zululand.[23] The British Army had suffered its worst defeat against an indigenous foe with vastly inferior military technology." Wikip

    The Zulus were far better at adapting their strategies and tactics than the British.

    OTOH, black American slaves were punished if they tried to adapt the European culture. The slave system was designed to discourage literacy and the kind of intellectual skills that would have made their resistance to the system more effective.
     
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    Here's a bit more eloquent and lengthy assessment of IQ test.
     

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