Systematic Racism Can't Be Fixed Without Tackling It Within Cycling

Prove that.

 

It is.

 

I disagree. I think you haven't studied that term.

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-systemic-racism-in-charts-graphs-data-2020-6

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_racism

 

Boo hoo. How many people have had that experience? Flip the coin ... every black person in this country has been the victim of racism in one form or another.

 

While I do not disagree that this country has participated in "systematic" racism, many of those charts from BusinessInsider are misleading and are designed more to form a narrative than provide data. They show % of representation of populous in one chart and show the data as total population in another. They also use the extreme points (virus unemployment) when it would have been more proper to show pre-virus conditions. They do this only when it fits their narrative. From their own charts, it shows that "systematic racism" appears to be on the decline.....which is a good thing. One thing they do not seem to address are the issues within predominate black neighborhoods which greatly influence these graphs when looked at on a whole country level. While I do feel it can be looked at as being "systematic racism" when whites do not go out of their way to help these predominate black neighborhoods, however, does the black neighborhoods themselves have some responsibility themselves for not improving situations within their own neighborhoods?

 

Well you missed the point that racism is universal and not limited to white people. Maybe most of us should just say "Boo Hoo" about racism. What do your think?

How many black people have been victims of the knockout game?

How has every black person been the victim of racism? Who appointed you to speak for all black people? Are black people coming here from Africa to experience racism?

 

I disagree with that. Sorry.

 

I hear this argument often and it really does not make much sense. Sure, there are racist all over the world. Do you think a white person in a predominately black neighborhood would not experience racism? What about a white, black, or Hispanic person in a predominately Chinese neighborhood?

A lot of the claims of racism is nothing more than a person of color believing it is racism just because they did not get the service they desired and happened to be of color. I just read a story yesterday about a black woman getting a pedicure when a white customer walked in without an appointment. The staff told the white lady that they were booked, but the white woman demanded service. The lady working on the black woman got up to deal with the situation. The black woman felt she was ignored at the benefit of the white woman and the reason she was ignored was because she was black. This situation was not necessarily because of a white-black thing. It was a poor customer service thing. There was absolutely nothing that indicated that this was because of race.

 

I vividly remember growing up in a predominantly Black neighborhood in Detroit and being pulled off my bicycle by packs of African American kids and beaten up on multiple occasions. I was taunted because I was white. Their own words.

Don’t tell me that Black racism doesn’t exist! They didn’t learn this from their parents and community?

But I guess after 400 years of racial oppression that I deserved that!?

Enough of the excuses.

Violence should never be rewarded from anyone.

Determined response from law enforcement and jail sentences are the only way to end this.

The lack of consequences will not!

 

While there are racist people, systematic racism means that it is built into our system of laws. It is a false statement.

 

And it was built into the system for over 200 yrs.

We had a war over one of the systemic racist issues.
Almost 200 yrs later, we had a civil rights movement. Basically 10 generations or so.
Then there was the civil rights movement 60 yrs ago, making the most of the rest of it illegal. But many still live today.
Give it another 50 yrs.

 

I don't know about ethnic groups, but they have often joined those who stood up for the rights of the LGBTQ community and immigrants.

I challenge you to name any ethnic group with the same problems as blacks. Would an Asian woman with four children have been threatened at gunpoint by police, all made to get down on the hot asphalt, including a six year old? Imagine if that family had been white .. I guarantee the Aurora police would have verified that they had the right car before pulling their guns.

 

We are discussing todays legal system. While racism was built into our laws, todays laws have zero racism and therefor the term "systemic racism" is nothing more than a false talking point.

 

Improving their neighborhoods and their personal situations requires money. Boatloads of it. Discrimination in education and employment, in spite of laws against it, is still widespread, so where do they get the money to help themselves? Perhaps whites needn't go out of their way, just get out of the way.

 

Geebus, what a load. The knockout game? I've no idea what you're talking about there, never heard of it.

Do you even know any black people? If you do, ask them. Ask them how it feels to be walking down the street, when a white person coming the other way sees then and immediately crosses the street. Ask them what it's like to try to rent an apartment in an upscale complex that is virtually all white. Ask them how it makes them feel when they are in a parking garage at night, walking to their car, and a white person looks at them with fear and moves in the other direction, assuming they are up to no good with no evidence other than skin color.

I'm sure a black American could articulate this much better than I've done. Ask one.

 

Interesting that you believe that money and government can fix poverty. Results show otherwise. How are whites in the way?

 

See #140.

 

It's covert. That is true. But it still exists because those in positions of power still have it in their minds.
Another few generations and those minds will all be dead.

Many wrongly convicted or convicted of petty drug charges have felony records and can't be normal citizens.

Black Family Handcuffed by Colorado Police After SUV Stopped in Search
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...olice-after-suv-stopped-in-search/vi-BB17zhmg

How many videos are there of a white family handcuffed and made to lay on the ground? Falsely.
Systemic racism at its finest.

 

Do not engage in the use of illicit narcotic substances, do not become convicted for such as a result. Why is such a simple fact proving to be so impossible for so many to comprehend and abide by?

 

Don't drive a nice SUV.

Taka a look at the video in link.
Systemic racism at its finest

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...olice-after-suv-stopped-in-search/vi-BB17zhmg
Black Family Handcuffed by Colorado Police After SUV Stopped in Search

 

Where did I say government? Im talking about money, something they don't have and can't get, not as easily as whites.

If you have to ask how whites are in their way, you don't understand racism. Whites have been in their way since emancipation.

 

Do you know any bikers? They get treated the same way quite often. This treatment does not always have to do with skin color itself but with the feeling of a potential threat. In a parking garage at night, I will ALWAYS avoid other people, no matter their race.

I am surprised you have never heard of the "knock-out game". There are articles about this "game" being played almost monthly.

Listen, I am not saying there are not racist. There are....and there are people that will react differently towards a person because of their race. However, we constantly hear and see articles of violent behavior of people of the black race. Does that mean all blacks are violent? No, not at all. However, why is it that Asians do not have as big of an issue as you described above? Some Hispanics likely experience similar acts more than Asians, but I suspect not as often and dependent on the neighborhood.

I do not disagree with you completely. However, not all black people are poor. In fact, we have come a long way to increase education opportunities and job opportunities for and in the black communities.....not saying that we still do not have a long way to go yet. There are many people and organizations that would willingly pour money into the black communities.....and many have.

 

The charts on the links show end result data. They are not proof of systemic racsim. In order to drill down to that, you'd have to point to a policy in place today, that is actually penalizing someone for being black, or any minority. Now, it could be argued that policies of the past, are certainly a contributing factor to the low numbers indicated in these charts. But policies of today? You'd have to point one, or more, specifically, and cite how it is actually keeping blacks from having the same opportunities as everyone else. With Affirmative action in place, the black success rate should actually be increasing. I did find it telling a bit, that in terms of minority CEO's, Asians and Hispanics are far outperforming the black populace. They don't seem as affected by these mysterious policies that are in place today. Could it maybe be argued that there is a cultural disparity also contributing to these charts you cite as proof systemic racism?

 

Systemic racism at it's finest

 

Since you did not answer the question as to how white's are in the way, please do so now. And of course, talking about today, not 20+ years ago.