Democrat Convention Thread

By the end of this thing no one is going to be around watching to see Joe Biden and I suspect that is exactly how they want it. Rating already circling the toilet. Wow.

 

I see no point in having conventions that continue for days. Each year the US broadcasts less and less of them anyway.

But then I can’t stand any kind of awards show.

 

Fav DNC song and video so far.

Its not parody.

 

Have you ever watched a single convention?

It was truly an idiotic decision by trump to attack Biden for wanting to "hurt God." It is extremely obvious that Biden is the one who lives a life and devotes himself to religious ideals.

 

I want to also give a shout out to Kristin Urquiza, the daughter of an Arizona man who died from Covid-19. She said, "His only preexisting condition was trusting Donald Trump, and for that, he paid with his life." That **** is going to play on repeat.



Michelle Obama's speech was absolutely remarkable and earned praise from Chris Wallace because she "really flayed, sliced and diced Donald Trump." NPR said that she "delivered a sophisticated rebuke." And Chris Cillizza of CNN said it was "a powerful speech that hit at the core of what I believe is the most glaring personality flaw in President Donald Trump: A complete lack of empathy."

 

Dems will be Dems. Big government control.

What I heard was that the federal government should wrest away local responsibility from city Mayors and city councils and take control over policing in the country, and that the federal government should override state governors' sovereign decision-making responsibilities for the health of the people in each state. They seek federal authoritarian Big Brother control by a few hundred people in Washington D.C. who know what's best for every state, best for every city, and ultimately, best every individual. While fear-mongering that Trump is "authoritarian", they blame him for his lack of unconstitutional federal overreach.

Political propaganda utilizes emotions over logic, feelings over facts. The continued messaging of "fear and anger" themes by the Democrat Party was resoundingly louder than the "love and unity" messaging during night one of the Democrat Convention.

Everyone is oppressed. Democrats will save you. Give Big Brother authority. They'll bring unity, whether you like it or not.

 

I'm sorry...but how do you square the bolded with Trump sending federal officers into cities to take control over policing, often against the explicit wishes of the local city Mayors and city Councils...or the repeated calls by Trump's campaign that the places which have failed America on covid-19 are all owned by democratic governors?

 

Trump sent federal officers to protect the federal courthouse from destructive rioters, not to take control over police. Of course, Dem leaders screeched "Authoritarian overreach!!!! He attacking our peaceful protesters!" LOL The left wing would be more amusing if they didn't break so many things.

 

Former New Jersey Governor Christine Whitman, Former Congresswoman Susan Molinari, and past GOP gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman

Three GOP females that either held a national congressional position, a statewide executive office, or ran for one. I know that you will not recognize the legitimacy of their stories because you think anyone who is not willing to support Donald Trump must not be a conservative or a Republican.

And that just goes to show you how much you view your own party as a cult.

 

Trump and those federal officers explicitly defended the willingness of federal officers to travel away from those federal buildings and to detain individuals that they believed were committing crimes even if those crimes were wholly unrelated to the destruction of federal property. How is that "not to take control over policing?"

But it sounds like your defense is essentially, "but that's different?"

 

No they were grabbing ppl blocks away from the federal building and some had nothing to do with the nights before.

 

Any link that "protesters" who were committing crimes unrelated to federal property destruction were detained? If "protesters" breached the door of a federal building, they committed a federal crime. If they then run off of federal property boundaries, they still committed a federal crime, which means federal officers have every right to detain them.

 

Hmmm. If someone commits a federal crime, the feds can come after you anywhere days, weeks, months or years later. If someone commits a crime and their description happens to match the description of someone who is innocent, law enforcement can detain the innocent person to determine whether they are or are not the criminal they seek.

If the description of the federal criminal is "pasty white person wearing blackshirt, black tights, black shoes, black helmet, and black face mask," then is it a wonder if some "innocent bystanders" fitting that description were detained and questioned? Y'all are too much! LOL

 

It’s not a perjorative if it’s true...I guess their members call themselves Democratics? Truly, there is nothing democratic about them...

 

Why, yes. The election is a competition between the Democratics versus the Republicanics, which will be decided by the Independentics.

 

I don't really have the time or energy to delve into a search for the specific link, but I can tell you that it came up during a press conference with McEnany where a reporter asked about the legal justification for federal officers detaining individuals who were several blocks away from the federal building that they were supposedly there to protect.

Her response was something along the lines of "federal officers are well within their rights to detain any individual that they believe has committed a crime."

And the reason we are having this discussion is not because I want to have a debate over whether Federal Officers have the authority. It is explicitly because you said that you heard from the DNC an advocation for sending the federal government to take over policing from local mayors and city councils (by the way...what specific message or speaker gave you that message?) and I wanted to know how your squared that message that you, presumably, feel is a bad thing with Trump engaging in a very explicit demonstration of that behavior within the last couple of months.

 

Your lack of understanding of the English language is not my problem. Your ignorance on this issue is not my problem. So, pffffft.

 

Trump campaign not pulling any punches with these ads.

Do we have a thread on the (likely) Portland leftist who got beaten into unconsciousness after trying to defend a trans woman from rioters?

Edit: This is what we're up against boys, this is footage direct from the convention:

 

I find it really strange to watch the Trump campaign and his defenders use footage of **** that happened during his Presidency and then make the claim that he bears no responsibility for those shitty things or that those shitty things will not happen again during another term of his presidency.

 

...because the federal government is to be All Powerful and controlling on every matter. Controlling angry and violent mobs surely cannot be the responsibility of city Mayors, who select the police chiefs, who determine everything from whether officers can put a knee on the neck of a man until he's dead to whether "protesters" can burn down and occupy anything they wish (except for federal buildings, which are the responsibility of the federal government).

It's all Trump's fault...because the feds should have Totalitarian control....thus Trump has failed.

 

Socialist Utopia with total government control from the top down.

The Vision:




The Reality:

 

That's a really strained reading of my post. I do not place all of the blame on Trump.

I just think it weird to argue that bad **** which objectively did happen during Trump's tenure is most assuredly not his fault or that the bad **** which, again definitely happened during his tenure, would not happen if he is re-elected.

 

You still haven't explained what aspect of the DNC convention last night made you think "total government control from the top down" was the message.

 

They spent the bulk of 2 hours focused on 1) "justice" (BLM protests) where the real issue is local policing and 2) Covid-19, which is the responsibility of the state governors.

Why invest night #1 of the Democrat Convention on issues which are not federal government issues unless they are suggesting that they will somehow take over the reigns on these state and local issues to "fix them" at the federal level? They wasted a night implying that Trump is responsible for state and local failures.