Illinois teen arrested in fatal shooting at Kenosha protest, police say

If he's a known violent felon, being arrested on an outstanding arrest warrant, after resisting arrest and being tazed (less lethal) absolutely.

 

Gosh... are you suggesting that all the ANTIFA folks who are currently attacking federal buildings in Seattle and Portland are like McVeigh? Who would have ever thought that...

 

Well that ain't Greyhound driving down the road is it?

 

He didn't hunt them down-they literally ran him down as he attempted to retreat.

He does not need to be authorized to defend his life.

 

And if the blood shot dude in self defense, dude still walks, no?

 

This has yet to be determined, and it is key. The threshold for determining provocation is much lower if you are carrying. This is the only unknown I have here. If it comes out that Rittenhouse provoked Rosenbaum in even the slightest bit, then yes, he is guilty of manslaughter at least.

 

He was a fire and police explorer and likely received EMT training.

To obtain National Registry certification as an EMT, he must be over 18-but that is for nationwide reciprocity purposes.

 

Yes it is/That said, the no. of shots from close range will and should be questioned.

The perpetrator shot multiple times had resisted physical arrest and a taser. That may also be considered as relevant to the state of mind of the police officer doing the shooting.

I understand your anger however the law won't jump to a conclusion of excessive force like many have without further information.

That said in regards to the shooting in this thread, I note the people making excuses for the perpetrator's behaviour would be the same to deny there is a defense for the person shot in the back.

Bottom line is peoples' preconceived beliefs are defining how they react to what they see and therein lies the problem.

Black people in a white on black police action will assume racism. Pro gun people will see nothing wrong with a minor carrying a rifle and others shooting back and people with guns taking the law into their own hands.

Your country has a lot of issues man. It loves guns. It sees nothing wrong with taking the law into its own hands with guns and breaking the law for certain reasons but not others.

You have a lot of people with extreme values fed by the divisive vocabulary of 4 years of Trump.

It is a sad time seeing so many Americans stressed out and ready to kill.

How much of that has been further exasperated by the never ending stress of Covid 19 and high unemployment I do not know.

 

In Biden's America, no pedophile should have to worry about minors defending themselves with firearms. Hair can be sniffed without fear.

 

The DNC? And yes, I care....

 

If you want people to feel free to own rifles and guns and be able to use them to enforce the law then this will happen.

 

Err welcome back...... You dont know perchance who recently got banned do you..... hmm

 

This looks like an open and shut case of murder.

 

The right to possess weapons is a fundamental human right. Governments can and do provide security for their citizens. But governments come and go. If your government disarmed you before it went, it just violated your fundamental right.

 

Can you please post a link supporting your accusations?

"A warrant for Jacob Blake's arrest was issued against Jacob Blake, but it's unclear if police were aware of it when they shot the 29-year-old Black man on Sunday.
Prosecutors in Kenosha County, Wisconsin charged Blake, 29, with third-degree sexual assault, trespassing and disorderly conduct in connection with domestic abuse last month, according to The Kenosha News. An arrest warrant for Blake was issued on July 6."
"An attorney representing Blake told the newspaper that Blake had no previous criminal charges or convictions."

 

I disagree. It does not meet the criteria for premeditated murder and the kid was attacked, only firing to defend himself.

 

I know what I post is not a guess. You post "I am guessing" followed by innuendo.

 

Awarrant for Jacob Blake's arrest was issued against Jacob Blake, but it's unclear if police were aware of it when they shot the 29-year-old Black man on Sunday.

Prosecutors in Kenosha County, Wisconsin charged Blake, 29, with third-degree sexual assault, trespassing and disorderly conduct in connection with domestic abuse last month, according to The Kenosha News. An arrest warrant for Blake was issued on July 6.

The newspaper reported that a woman living in the 2800 block of 40th Street told police in May that Blake, her ex-boyfriend, had come into her home and taken her car keys and vehicle. She also said he had touched her sexually without consent.
https://www.newsweek.com/jacob-black-criminal-record-details-kenosha-shooting-1527708

And that's besides the point that he was armed, resisting arrest, and had been tazed.

 

You've made some valid suggestions...
not sure I relate to this one...Black people in a white on black police action will assume racism.
I did not assume racism, I was simply imagining myself in the situation of Jacob Blake.
After seeing him get shot in the back for reaching inside his car.
For one..the cop had no idea what he was reaching for.
Second...even if he had a knife in his hand...is that a reason to kill him?

At a US military base in Germany...a German citizen came onto the base to confront a GI who had been messing with his wife.
The German citizen had a knife. The Politzei were called. After he refused to surrender and hand over weapon.....
the Politzei simply shot him in the leg and hauled him away on a stretcher.

 

Why do you think I would claim the others weren't spoiling for a fight?

You have no evidence for your BS claim.

The thing that offends is your BS (see above).

 

It says he was charged...you said he was a felon.
Where does it say he is a felon?

 

The kid had no business being there. Ditto outsiders who interjected themselves on either side.

I'll de damned if I'm going to excuse people spoiling for a fight whatever their reason. The kid may have been defending himself (to be determined...), but he was inviting a problem with his behavior.

 

He isn't an EMT.