The Problem With Some Blacks

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  1. Just A Man

    Just A Man Well-Known Member

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    Our country has many well educated, financially secure, and successful blacks who subconsciously harbor an inferiority complex when it comes to white people. That is why we see these blacks still complaining about racism. Until they mature and accept the fact that most whites are now looking past skin color they will always be frustrated. Here's a common problem demonstrated in speech by our ex-first lady who seems to have very thin skin.
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    Former First Lady Michelle Obama criticized white Americans in her latest edition of The Michelle Obama Podcast, stating that she was treated like she didn’t exist during the presidency of her husband Barack.

    “When I’ve been completely incognito during the eight years in the White House, walking the dogs on the canal, people will come up and pet my dogs, but will not look me in the eye. They don’t know it’s me,” Obama recounted, adding later: “That is so telling of how white America views people who are not like them, like we don’t exist. And when we do exist, we exist as a threat. And that’s exhausting.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...ite-people-have-treated-me-like-i-dont-exist/
     
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    What's bad is, there was a YOUNGER day I interacted with everyone candidly without forethought, today I find myself overthinking my conversations with persons of color/nonwhites to the point I avoid it altogether just because it's no longer fun and more work then I want to spend with the person/s..
     
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    I think it's hilarious that Moochelle pines for notoriety. Why again? She was the wife of a president don't you know. I think that's pretty narcissistic. In her conceit, does she really believe that folks should not only recognize her, but what? worship her for the time she spent luxuriating in the white house? That seems pretty egotistical. But, you know, she is a liberal. It's what they do....
     
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    So you've bought into the bullshit that says we don't have any "systemic racism". And you attack and blame blacks for their justified fears and objections to oppression. Holy crap! You know what attacking and blaming blacks for perceived "inherent defects" is, right?
     
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    breitbart?!? LOL
     
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  6. Just A Man

    Just A Man Well-Known Member

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    You call it BS but I call what I see in our society. We are not a racist country and you know it.
    So a guy who is white and 5' 5" and is ignored by tall blacks is experiencing racism when they don't look him in the eye -- LOL
    It's a quote from Michelle. Why not comment on that rather than shoot the messenger?
     
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    Same ol' BS.

    "...and some, I assume, are good people."
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is that what she said? No, it isn't.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you have any actual proof of this?
     
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    Sirius Black Well-Known Member

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    You are evidently not "looking past skin color" as you have introduced a thread entitled "The Problem With Some Blacks" and then continued to discuss skin color and how blacks have an "inferiority complex" and they are not "mature". Could this be considered subtle racism or have I misread your intent?
     
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    LOL.. she literally said she was offended by how folks treated her because they didn't seem to recognize her..... What do you call that? I call it being a narcissist. I call it not racism, but an acknowledgement that she doesn't have a resume that is notable enough for anyone to CARE who she is. I have to admit, I'm not a huge Portuguese Water Dog fan, so I know she isn't talking about me. But should I ever meet her, I'll be sure to ask how Jussie is doing.
     
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    Systemic racism has been perpetuated by the Democrat Party for generations, so this latest round of outrage is just a rebranding of the ringing of the slave bell.

    If this were not an election year, the media wouldn't bother with a George *Kirby mantra. (*Pelosi's version) But it is an election year and the Blacks are down on their knees just like they were in 1862.
     
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    I think you're right about that. I know in corporate america, you literally have to not say things in meetings because saying them might make others uncomfortable because you were participating in the conversation and they, or their culture don't understand that. Sensitivity towards others, including being self defeating in business is now a requirement of many large companies. With the inclusion of so many diverse folks from so many third world nations now, even US citizen women are being negatively effected by advancing contributions where those contributions are seen by the diversity inclusions as being "too aggressive' or "too forward", or whatever. it's really quite self defeating.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    An observation that people didn't recognize her, partly because they didn't look her in the eye. The "pining for notoriety" conclusion you make is just made up.
     
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    Go buy yourself a TV and you'll see all the proof you want.

    Feel free to consider my opinion anything you wish. Some of us understand human nature and some refuse to.
     
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    Exactly. Blacks complain about being singled out because of their skin color, and the OP is centered around singling people out because of their skin color. Kinda self-defeating, IMO.
     
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    Michelle goes out incognito and then complains because people won't look at her :)
     
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    Was she complaining or discussing a complex issue? I doubt she was complaining. That's Trump's realm, almost exclusively.
     
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    One of my college profs did her PHD on slavery and racism.

    Before the civil rights movement, the South was an apartheid. In 1968, Nixon and Wallace got 55% of the vote. In 1989 we started re-segregating. Because of demographic changes, racists work a lot harder at disenfranchising Blacks. And over the last decade, the number of hate groups, and hate crimes has increased.

    We're not only racist as hell, we're getting worse.
     
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    Come on man, look at where we are -- we elected a black president. We have many mixed race marriages. We have integrated schools, integrated military, and integrated work places. We have laws against discrimination. People of different colored skins are wanting to move to our country. Face reality rather than liberal talking points. Democrats have to keep telling blacks we are racist against them so the democrats can tell them that they will help them. It's the old scam game. Many blacks no longer buy the democrats' con and those blacks have moved into the middle class.
    --Ask yourself when was the last time you actually witnessed an act of racism. Go ahead and be honest. You will have to admit you haven't.
     
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    In other words, you have no proof........as I suspected.
     
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    Facts have a well known liberal bias.
     
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    You see here is the problem I have with this and I can sum it up easily based on a conversation I had between two of my young co-workers a couple weeks ago. One was a 19 year old black guy and the other was a 20 year old white guy and they were in my office using my computer to do paperwork and started arguing about this whole issue. I simply told them this and pointed to them both. "This whole racism thing, it's not nearly as prevalent as YOU think it is (black guy) and it's not nearly as irrelevant as YOU think it is either (white guy)".

    I am one of those educated, financially secure, and successful blacks in America, all of which accomplished solely by me myself with virtually no help from anyone. I also have a rational brain and I don't have an inferiority complex but I am able to see reality through clear lenses, not tainted ones like most other folks looking to confirm their own beliefs. Here is the actual reason WHY it may seem as though even many successful black people are perceived to have an "inferiority complex".

    As a white person you don't know what it feels like to be a child sitting at a table watching your father who worked his entire life to buy his first house meet with the home owner and hear this as she walks into the other room to discuss it with her husband on the phone. "Yes yes I know but do we really want to be the ones who brought them to the neighborhood? We still have to live in this town". When you're elderly you tend to forget that you don't whisper as quietly as you think you do.

    As a white person you don't know what it feels like to pay your own way through college for years and show up to flight school and get pulled aside by a high ranking black officer and told that you are going to have to work harder than the people around you in order to have what they have. You don't want to believe that, so you ignore it.

    As a white person you don't know what it feels like to be flying with your instructor who makes an open joke stating "damn look at all this cotton, sure glad I didn't have to pick that, and don't even start with your **** I don't want to hear it you weren't even alive when that was going on". To such horror that a white student sitting in the seat behind him grabbed him in mid flight and said what in the **** is wrong with you!?

    As a white person you don't know what it feels like when your entire class gets to go on their solo flight by themselves, but not you. And have different instructors in the class come up as I sit at the table and just ask me random oral knowledge questions that I answered correctly, then watch as they walk away and shake their heads and talk among themselves. Then walk back up to me and give me a hug and tell me I'm sorry, your instructor is an actual racist, we all know he is, he grew up in a different time period man no matter how well you could have done in this phase he wasn't going to let you fly solo, he doesn't think you should be here. You still passed the phase with flying colors, the solo is just a bonus cool thing it doesn't count for grades or anything, on the bright side you'll be off tomorrow while they have to fly....

    This wasn't the 60s or the 70s or even the 80s, and this wasn't some po dunk flight school. This was the US Army, in the 2000's. And to save from making this post 10 pages long, I'll limit my experiences to those for now, but they are by no means the only ones.

    That "inferiority complex" stems from the fact that still to this day no matter what you do you still won't be "good enough" for some of those around you. No matter how much better than them you actually are, you may still be looked down upon as inferior to them.

    Do I think this country is racist? Absolutely not. Do I think the "system" keeps people who look like me down? Absolutely not. Nor do I buy into the narrative that cops walk around murdering innocent black people for the crime of breathing while black. Nor do I buy into the notion that the poverty and social status of much of the black community is the result of systemic racism instead of their own personal failures and life choices. I don't buy into any of that BLM nonsense.

    I'm proud of the fact that I came from nothing and am now financially secure and comfortable and successful. But I will not entertain the notion that it was just as easy for me as it was for those around me. As difficult as the road leading to my career field is in general, my white counterparts just had to walk it, they didn't have to walk it and deal with THAT. And unless you are someone who has to deal with that, you really don't know what it feels like. I don't blame them for not having to deal with that, I'm glad they didn't and I hold zero resentment towards them nor do I think they "owe" me something or any of that nonsense. But my difficult road was made even more difficult than it should be for the mere fact that I didn't look like everyone else walking beside me.

    As I have said plenty of times before, if you are able to cut through the utter bullshit that is the BLM terrorist movement you will see that there IS actually something worth talking about behind it. And that ^^^ is what it is. And that is why even among many successful black people still feel "different".

    It's not as prevalent as you think it is and it's not as irrelevant as you think it is either.
     
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    Well, to be fair, LOTS of the nation, not just the south employed segregation. The northern cities, if you recall had to have federal bussing mandated on them to "cure" their continued segregation in the schools. Boston, NY, Chicago, etc weren't the south, were they? And if you claim that Clinton reignited racism, aren't you self defeating the support of the party you claim? So, I'm not exactly sure that your statement here makes any sense, historically, or otherwise.
     
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    LOL! Dang Michelle, that is the biggest pile of bull excrement I have heard in a while. You say when you mingle amongst the common folk you are so mistreated? Hahaha!
     
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