The Problem With Some Blacks

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Just A Man, Aug 28, 2020.

  1. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

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    You were much better off in Foxboro than Southie in my opinion. I lived there for 7 years after buying a place for investment purposes. I am now far west of Boston in small rural town. Much more to my liking.
     
  2. Just A Man

    Just A Man Well-Known Member

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    You will never make it in the USA because you are blaming someone else. You want to be successful look at what successful people right here on the PF are telling you. Try emulating rich people rather than the losers with one excuse after another. Your problem ain't the GOP. Look at your lifestyle.
     
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    Asserted, absent foundation. Try harder.
     
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    From black folks! Then again these were Cali black folks so that's as far as my experience goes..
     
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    Why?
     
  6. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    Absolutely. In life there are no guarantees and while growing up in an established well to do family certainly makes things easier it is by no means a guarantee for success. Just like growing up in a not so well do to family is not a guarantee for failure. There are perks to both, the work ethic and responsibility come to mind when discussing poor vs well to do as you've stated. Having things "easy" for you in life can have it's negative consequences as you've demonstrated.

    For me growing up with everyday being a struggle taught me the value of personal responsibility and the value of the dollar and those same values still hold true to this day for me. While most other kids in high school had cars and drove themselves to work I was the Senior who still caught the bus. I couldn't afford a car, their parents bought them theirs. I worked for years while in high school to finally purchase a car during the latter part of my Senior year but I loved it because it was mine even though it was a cheap piece of crap. When it broke down, which it did often, I had to learn how to fix things because I couldn't afford to take it to a mechanic. I learned engine repair, suspension, basic maintenance, etc all because if it broke I had no other choice but to learn how to fix it and I could barely afford parts let alone a shop to help me. Meanwhile I'm watching the well to do kids drag racing their Mustangs and doing donuts in the school parking lot tearing up their cars. Mommy bought them that car, it doesn't hold the same value to them that my little piece of crap car did to me. And once graduating high school and working and going to college full time I HAD to keep that car running because there was no school bus to take me to work or school anymore. There were plenty of days when I rode my bike to work while my car sat waiting for parts to arrive. I couldn't RELY on anybody else, I wanted it I had to DO IT myself. And even nowadays decades later when I could easily take my truck to the shop for repairs without batting an eye I still do most of my own maintenance myself.

    I learned the value to the dollar and I keep those values to this day. I told myself every single day during college while working full time and schooling full time and not having a day off in over 2 years while living in a rat infested studio apartment with no hot water and bullet holes in the back wall...One day this will all be over, and I will NEVER live like this again no matter what. I drove by high rise condos every day on my way to work full of well to do kids my own age who's parents sent them there to party for spring break. One day....one day you will be like them.

    I will never forget the day I was sitting on the patio at my job at a seafood restaurant eating lunch before my shift. It was a pizza I got from one of those cheap carry out places. A lady walks by on her way in and sees me and jokingly says "haha well THAT'S not good advertising mister!" I simply smiled and told her "I know ma'am, I just work here, I can't afford to actually eat here". She said "Oh my God I'm sorry...I didn't mean any offense I was just joking around". I simply smiled and said "No worries it's alright....one day".

    One day finally came, many years later after dragging myself through broken glass for years looking up at everybody around me with envious eyes. I went back to my home town years later and I went to my restaurant and I sat down at a table for the first time in my life and I ordered the most expensive seafood platter they had. And then drove to my old crappy studio apartment and I just sat in the parking lot staring at my old home. And then I went to the store and grabbed a bottle of whiskey and checked myself into one of those high rise condos and I sat on the 25th floor balcony staring at the ocean drinking my whiskey for hours and honestly...I cried. One day was finally here.

    I learned in my life, at least in my regards, that nobody is going to give you anything. If you want a car then you have to buy a car, nobody is going to give you one like your classmates parents did for them. If you want to go to college then pay for it, nobody is going to pay for it for you like your classmates parents did for them. If you want to go stay in one of those expensive high rise condos then you have to pay for it, nobody is going to send you on a paid vacation like those spring break kids parents did for them. And if you don't want to be poor and live in this rat infested tiny apartment with no hot water then bust your ass and get the hell out of here, nobody is going to pull you out from the kindness of their own heart.

    I'm not an arrogant person, but I can say that I am proud of myself and everything in my home that I have holds special value to me because I know in my heart that I did all of this, and I know what it feels like to not have any of this. The 4K TV in my living room didn't just cost a few hundred bucks, it cost years of struggle and sacrifices in order to be able to casually toss a few hundred bucks to buy a TV.
     
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    I find that statement a bit odd.. Almost reads as if you see yourself as the same way a racist would refer to a person of color.. Growing up I generally refer to a persons by name or dude/bro/brah! Of course the last 20 years has been the rebranding of mind and label from both a political standpoint and as you demonstrate your own labeling of yourself. I would think with a more open mind many on both sides of the river would realize it's the RIVER causing the rift ;)
     
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    Yup, difference is I got mine through years and sacrifice and misery while being a poor black guy in America busting his ass every single day to have it.

    Folks are free to follow in my footsteps. The road is hard, I mean it's HARD, but it can be done. I am living proof of that.

    Folks can make the choice to follow me or they can sit back in their own poverty and misery. The choice is theirs and theirs alone. And either way, none of the choices that THEY make effect ME in any capacity whatsoever. So you are correct, I honestly do not care at all what choices they make.

    For years I tried to help, volunteered at one of the big brother places for kids without fathers, tried to mentor my young cousins and put them on the path to success, even tried to help my own sister for years. They ignored me, they shunned me, they call me names and criticize me. As Barack Obama said in his inauguration speech, I extended my hand and they clinched their fists.

    So screw them, I'm not going to waste my time banging their heads against a wall. I extend my hand and you turn your back on me and call me names because I don't think the same way you do. So they can have fun in their misery and angst about the world.

    "I got mine", you're right I did, and I extended my hand dozens of times to help others get theirs. They turned their back on me, so yes, screw them. And there is absolutely nothing any of them can do to hurt me or effect my life in any capacity whatsoever, so I don't care how they feel about me saying that.
     
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    I think you may be reading a bit too much into that than was intended on my part lol. I was simply referring to folks claiming that I need to Google some research on what its like to be a black person in America. I was saying I don't need to use Google to research what it's like to be a black person in America "I am one", as in I am a black person in America who knows what it's like to be a black person in America. And I'm fairly certain that due to that I probably know a bit more about what its like being black in America than a white person reading about what its like being black in America on the internet...
     
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    Maybe so! But I like to see you as a person in my world ;) The world has far to many labels to when I was growing up, sadly the damage is so beat into the young that I don't see a way back to the days I came from ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    Actually, I think you just solved their problems. They are victims of their own ideology! The con mindset of working hard, and improving yourself is what it takes to succeed. And luckily, that is available for a person of any race. Just ask the asians here, as they seem to be dominating that. So, if you don't have a mentality of self improvement, bettering your career, etc, then you will languish in menial job land for the rest of your life. Race has nothing to do with that, just an individuals own self drive level.
     
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    only people that think that is someone born well off
     
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    yep, the republicans tax cuts for the rich and mega corps did not help
     
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    The problem with some blacks is they blame their failure to succeed on whites.
     
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    "You didn't build that" LOL
     
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    Some blacks. You purposely and dishonesty left that word out.
     
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    I think the point is, we all fit into many "sub-categories". The real question is, what do we choose to identify as? In the Mardi Gras Parade we will see many that identify as openly gay. In the protests in and around Prtland, DC, and other Democrat cities we see many that identify as black, or black wannabees. Some just identify as leftist Marxist. When one looks at what they call "Trump supporters" we see folks that just identify as "American".
     
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    Or they listen to whites that want to be their "keepers"......forever. Just like when they owned them.
    Now if they refuse to listen, Joe Biden is going to bannish them from their race! "You ain't black.....com'on man!"
     
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    All together a fraction of a percentage point of all whites in America is represented by all those groups combined.
     
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    What's not to understand? Black or white some people take responsibility for their lives others don't.
     
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    Horse feathers!!! My dad was a welder and an alcoholic and it was tough living with rations in WW2. I can remember at age 5 going to bed without supper because there was no food in the house and being damn hungry. I was ten before we had a car in the family. I have stolen food as a teen. My humble surroundings put a fire in my belly. I went to work after school starting in 8th grade and bought all my clothes and a car. I graduated high school and served a hitch in the Navy. I worked at a gas station and saved enough money to attend a trade school while I worked nights. I worked in that trade starting as an apprentice, sometimes double shifts, sometimes 2 jobs. I learned my trade better than anyone and worked my way up to an executive. I was financially able to retire at age 55. Sure it was hard. But like I tell people when they ask how I knew how to built my own house -- I tell them I did it "one nail at a time". Decide what you want out of life and take the first step. Opportunities are out there for the taking for everyone. You find them disguised as hard work. It doesn't matter your color, your weight, your height, your education, your accent, your hair, but what counts is your drive and personality (loyalty to your boss and company).
     
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    Democrats are talking about raising taxes on the bloated rich not you.GOP has been running that give away to the rich and especially the Megarich for 40 years snap out of it.
     
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    yep, I did ok too, but the reality is not everyone will, especially nowadays with so much foreign outsourcing, foreign imports and Artificial Intelligences stealing our jobs, and of course the min wage being so low

    we got lucky, not everyone will be as lucky to escape poverty, we grew up in a good time in history
     
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    From personal experience and from watching others I can confidently declare that is not the case.
     
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