Nixon, one of the greatest Presidents?

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    JFK would be considered a White Nationalist today, lol.
     
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    Yeah Joseph...it is a lot of hindsight.There was a lot of fear too. As a young man....about 17 at the time, I thought of it as a type of "appeasement". I never understood how we could stand with a Communist Nation in hopes they'd wanna be like us. Now we know. They don't want to be like us. They want to own us.

    That to me is the problem with Globalism. The premise is, we must forget our principles to be like other nations. America 1st says, "we retain our sovereignty, respecting basic human rights while working with other Nations.....and hopefully they will imitate success. If that is not their desire, so be it.
     
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    Perhaps a Nationalist who happened to be white. Nationalist is not limited to skin color.
     
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    OSHA and the EPA are bureaucracies at their worst. Un elected bureaucrats that make stupid decisions that puts small businesses out of jobs and costs all a lot of $$.

    Imagine me, a small contractor having an OSHA man tell me that any noise exceeding certain decibels required my men to wear hearing protection, while at the same time, the back up beeper on the forklift was required to exceed those decibels. Just a tiny fraction of what business men put up with from a bunch of un elected elitist snobs. Trump eliminated some of that and that is how the economy took off before China Virus. Biden will once again enslave us.
     
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    That is a very poorly written article. e.g.

    That makes no sense whatsoever but that is what you are basing your fallacy on? :eek:

    Low income Southerners, AKA blacks, voted Republican BEFORE Nixon.

    High income Southerners, AKA, whites voted Democrat BEFORE Nixon.

    Post Nixon it becomes;

    Low income Southerners, AKA blacks, voted Democrat AFTER Nixon.

    High income Southerners, AKA whites, voted Republican AFTER Nixon.

    So no, it had NOTHING to do with economic growth and everything to do with RACE. Both JFK and MLK were MURDERED by a white southerners who OPPOSED civil rights for blacks.

    Nixon was an unprincipled OPPORTUNIST who saw a political advantage in appealing to DISAFFECTED white southern Dems who were opposed to the Civil Rights Act that was eventually passed by LBJ. Those white southern RACISTS were not happy campers which made them an easy target for a conniving political shyster like Nixon.

    Attempting to rewrite history does NOT alter any of the FACTS or the MOTIVATIONS behind the actions.

    And just so you understand I am an INDEPENDENT and LBJ's political MOTIVATION for passing the CRA in order to steal black voters from the GOP was just as VENAL as Nixon's MOTIVATION for appealing to disaffected white southern racists.

    It was pure unadulterated POLITICAL pandering on BOTH sides and Nixon was an acolyte of McCarthy who tutored him in mendacious political backstabbing while LBJ was an old school Dem who would do anything he could to undermine his political opposition.
     
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    :applause:
     
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    Nixon was a crap president.

    People trying to write fiction point to things like the EPA. The thing is, he was president in a liberal era. Bipartisan legislation was the norm. But if you want to see the real Nixon all you have to do is look at Superfund. The intent of Superfund was to slow the EPA down to a crawl.

    He made a lot of bad decisions.
     
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    You have got to be sh*tting me.

    He sent teams of lawyers across the country, even Hawaii, trying to find a legal basis on which to challenge the election.

    He didn't find anything. A while back a team of historians went to Chicago to go over the voting records. If it had happened anywhere, it would have been there. They also found nothing.

    But I will give him this much, when the country turned against him, he didn't do what Trump will be doing.
     
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    I think Nixon loved his country and he understood the honor of his office, as have all presidents before trump.
    Of course presidents make mistakes, some have even been incompetent, but only trump has soiled his office and dishonored his duty so thoroughly just to feed his ego and nurse his personal grudges.
     
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    Go tell it to the JFK campaign which concluded otherwise.
     
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    No knowledge of?

    Horsecrap
     
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    The point of the OP that every leftist in here is validating with their post about Nixon is he did a very long list of things they should like but they still find a way to despise him because he was a Republican. This proves that no matter what democrats won't work with republicans.
     
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    Normalizing relations with China was not what got us to where we are now. It was the flawed implementation of that policy by a long list of politicians in both parties over decades.
     
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    The bombing was to force North Vietnam to the bargaining table and it worked
     
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    And the left today still finds a way to hate him.
     
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    "And how many racist Dixiecrats did Nixon win for the GOP? Turns out, virtually none. Among the racist Dixiecrats, Strom Thurmond of South Carolina was the sole senator to defect to the Republicans — and he did this long before Nixon’s time. Only one Dixiecrat congressman, Albert Watson of South Carolina, switched to the GOP. The rest, more than 200 Dixiecrat senators, congressmen, governors and high elected officials, all stayed in the Democratic Party."
     
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    You could be right but I am about your age and can’t remember if we knew at that time what was going on behind China’s iron curtain. I do remember talk of war and Nixon calming those waters
     
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    LBJ was a horrible excuse for a human let alone President.

    Vietnam deaths etc. are on his shoulders.
    At the financial cost of his Great Society.
    When all analyst knew Vietnam was NOT winnable.

    No "heavy lifting" :roflol:
    A cowardice of leadership.

    "If I pull out of Vietnam I will be so hated although it is
    the right thing to do.", LBJ reasoned.



    Moi
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    Family & self, Democrats




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    Which also meant nothing....we would have had to kill all the Vietnamese to win the war LOL
     
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    What speaks for itself is the leftist in here with nothing but hate for a president that implemented many policies and programs liberals love. The reason for the hate is the R behind his name. They were more than willing to excuse perjury and lying to America with Clinton because he was a democrat. If democrats couldn’t work with Nixon and can’t get over hate for him today it’s obvious they will refuse to work with any Republican ever and that is the point of this thread. No way to work with democrats so we must beat them like a drum
     
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    Unfortunately all the GOP cares about is cutting taxes on the rich and cutting services for everyone else. You would know that if you weren't obsessed with phony scandals ridiculous conspiracy theories and pure information... The GOP has been nothing but pure obstruction of democratic reform since Reagan......
     
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    Sorry we don't like criminals like nixon. All his great achievements were just doing stuff that was going to happen anyway under Democrats. He was a great scumbag politician. And ruined respect for the office that continues to this day.....
     
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    It meant the North came back to the table
     
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    And another hate filled leftist rant proves the OP correct
     
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    Sorry about reality and facts etc.... Hate has nothing to do with it thanks. My area is 73% Trump and they are lovely people. Except their politics has been perverted by garbage hateful propaganda...
     
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