Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’ President repeatedly disparaged war dead

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  1. EyesWideOpen

    EyesWideOpen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    McCain was petty and vindictive before Trump ever thought of running for president. Hell, it was the Obama campaign telling us how unstable, quick to anger, and what a war monger McCain was, that he never saw a conflict around the world where he didn't want to turn into a war with US boots on the ground.

    With his last dying moments, for hate's sake, he spit his last breath at Trump, by casting the deciding vote to NOT repeal the ACA.
     
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    Was that before or after his disgraced son was kicked out of the navy for cocaine use?
     
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    EyesWideOpen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope, it was a personal dirty politics jab only aimed at McCain. That's all. If you insult Trump, he will insult back, and he will not go easy on you.
     
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    EyesWideOpen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, it illustrates his feelings about McCain.

    Even before he was inaugurated, Trump went out of his way to pay respects to fallen soldiers. so no, his jab was aimed at McCain, no one else. Stop conflating.

     
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    President Trump has had his detractors within the Federal Government. People that are employed to work for the Executive Branch, but have acted not based on the best interest of the country, but on their own personal bias. So, when you start talking anonymous sources, you have to check whether they are dealing with rumors, or facts. So far, no one has been named as a source, nor has a source stepped forward. It is believed that General Kelly was one of those sources, but again not verified. So, whether this story is true or not depends on whether you support or hate President Trump. Strangely enough there is no middle ground.

    One individual at Fox News, Jennifer Griffin, has claimed that she verified the story through a source at the Pentagon. The question that I raised was who at the Pentagon actually was in the room to hear what was said about cancelling the trip to the cemetery. This decision would have been made by his Personal Staff and the Secret Service. No one from the Pentagon would not have been in the room. So, what is the source of their claim? Just rumors? Griffin is a reporter that has worked for the AP and NYT at times. Fox News hires several liberal reporters to give them a balanced approach to the news.

    Your comment about the Atlantic is just plain naive. Many publications have long histories, but that does not make them unbiased. The New York Times was founded in 1851 and the Washington Post was founded in 1877. Are you really going to sit there and claim these services are not liberally biased.

    McCain was in fact "Songbird". No matter what that idiotic liberal publication Snoops says. BTW, here is an idea of what Snopes is about:
    https://foodbabe.com/do-you-trust-s...ading-how-they-work-with-monsanto-operatives/

    BTW, did you notice that the Snopes offered no proof that to back their claim that McCain was not called "Songbird"? All they claim is that it is a debunked story. Yet, I have seen no one claiming that the story had been debunked except those liberal fake fact checking sites, and all they say is that it has been debunked. Or they offer McCain's self-serving statements of denial.

    Yet, the voices of those that were POW's with him are silenced by the liberal media. Here are some links that quotes McCain's captors and fellow POW's:

    https://freedomoutpost.com/the-truth-is-that-john-songbird-mccain-was-a-traitor/
    https://rightedition.com/2017/02/18/songbird-mccain-evidence-words-fellow-veterans-captors/
    http://salem-news.com/articles/october022009/hanoi_john_10-2-09.php

    As far as the Steel Dossier is concerned, it is extremely relevant. President Trump was being accused of being an agent of Russia, or at the very least colluding with them to steal the 2016 elections. Yet, it was the Hillary Clinton Campaign and the DNC that colluded with a former British MI-6 Agent to prepare a fake dossier in order to make it look like President Trump was compromised in order to win the 2016 election. McCain was the front man chosen by Fusion GPS and the Brooking Institute. McCain leaked the fake Dossier to Buzzfeed and Mother Jones. So, McCain, Hillary Clinton, the Fusion GPS and the Brookings Institute are all guilty of the very thing they accused President Trump of doing. This demonstrates how far the detractors of President Trump will go to disparage his good name.
     
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    Still trashing McCain...OVER HIS SERVICE!
     
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    The DP has become a party of non-stop Hate Rallies.
     
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    Has become? When did the Party of slavery, the KKK, Black codes, poll taxes, discrimination, internment camps, Burn, Loot Murder, not been the Party of hate?
     
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    Yes, the Democrats Party has always been The Party of Racist Hate in America, but that has more to do with the DP's corrupt professional political bosses than ordinary American Democrats. Democrats are now rejecting their party's leaders. Hence Trump.

    Non-stop Hate Riot Rallies are a new DP tactic. A really stupid one.
     
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    The dems are just pushing more people to #walkaway
     
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    This election is the "Make America Great Again" party Vs. the "Death To America" party.



    How much do you suppose the DNC has paid Billy Kristol, Jonah Goldberg, and The Kasich for this brilliant campaign strategy? ;-)
     
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    Trump fans still claim that Trump didn’t disparage the military. That’s in spite of even Fox reporting it.
    And of course them doing it right here on this thread re McCain

    And now it shows up in Woodward’s book... from well before these recent allegations

    It’s who he is
     
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    Because the claim to that effect is a lie.
     
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    I wouldn't say losers - that is not right .. "Suckers" ? - I would say there are a fair number vets who feel they were duped... specially since 911 "Fighting the War on Terror".

    Has this not been a big lie ? and were we all not "Duped" in numerous ways throughout Red and Blue Admins.. in this mighty War that we have spent 10 Trillion dollars on ... since 2000.

    Big Suckers we are .. and thinking about it along these lines - we have all been made losers by this War on Terror - and the "War on Drugs" for that matter.

    Still don't make someone a loser for signing up though - but .. context matters sometimes.

    ...
     
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    I’m sure that military folks appreciate your nuance

    not...
     
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    Many do - You claiming we were not all duped ? - No idea what you are talking about because you are afraid to speak - knowing your position is lost before you start. ...
     
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    What???
     
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    Yep! “No depth”

    all of a sudden Putin is a great bloke reliable as hell and on America’s side, Kim Jong is a brilliant leader , cheating on your wife and family are fine, all and any military service is for “suckers”......


    What happened to Republican values?
     
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    This reminds me of the Vietnam era when kids that were drafted were reviled on return
     
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    Judges
     
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    They weren’t. That was largely a right wing myth
     
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    I agree that anyone who signs up for the military is a loser if they can earn more money elsewhere without risking their life. Even if they can't earn more but don't have to risk their life in their job.

    There are monster dupes like Pat Tillman who was killed by his buddies.

    Even aspiring politicians don't see any value in military service.

    Too many military recruits are psychopaths that are attracted by the ability to shoot people.

    Smart bombs, dumb bombardiers.
     
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    Note before I say this: both sides are guilty of this:

    Both sides like to lay claims using broad generalities. Trump has never actually disparaged the entirety of our armed forces. He HAS disparaged individuals that either is in it or used to be in it.

    Right now Dems are claiming that he has because its politically advantageous for them to do so. Not out of any truthfulness. It's taking advantage of the old adage of "you insult one of <insert whatever here> then you insult every in <insert same of whatever here>"

    It's all about politics.
     
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    Save the both sides bullshit...Mmmmmkay?
     
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    Screw that and screw your comments
     

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