Western fires. Climate change or the climate change cult

A lot of these fires in the west are arson caused which makes me wonder if the AGW cult is out to make this fire season as bad as possible. Combine them with leftist looking to foment pre election chaos and you have a fire storm. Be interesting to find out just who these arsonists are but if they are radical leftist we won’t be told by the media.



“Brandon McGlover, 32, of Temecula, Calif. appears in court for arraignment. He is charged with 15 felony counts for setting nine fires, including the Cranston Fire.

Three arson suspects have been arrested in two weeks in Southern California. Two suspected arsonists have been arrested in Riverside County and one in Orange County for fires in Southern California's fire-prone wildlands. Two of the arson incidents resulted in wildland fires burning more than 17,000 acres and growing. “


https://amp.desertsun.com/amp/912413002

 

This doesn't seem to be getting any traction on the news, unless I missed it.

 

Not true, most of the fires ( over 500 ) have been caused by three factors: 1. high heat. 2. drought. 3. LIGHTNING.

https://www.redding.com/story/news/...lightning-strikes-cal-fire-map-ca/3413807001/

Since, historically speaking, lightning in CA is rather sparse, and this uptick of lightning plus increased temperatures ( 112 in San Diego, unprecedented ) is the cause and that's due to AGW/ACC

Peer reviewed science is not a cult. Trumpism and climate denial is the cult.

 

Those factors have been causing wildfires throughout recorded history. Humans have been using firebreaks to mitigate them throughout recorded history. Until the last few decades, anyway, when 'environmentalists' began claiming firebreaks were 'destructive.'

 

You won't see media running out to look for video of these arsonist participating in BLM riots like they look for video of any right winger that commits a crime at a Trump rally.

 

A very large number have been arson caused. That's just fact. They are exacerbating an already bad situation.

https://thatoregonlife.com/2020/09/arson-suspected-in-several-wildfires-raging-across-oregon/

 

Back in the 90s when the cause celebre was to stop logging in the west I and others said in twenty years we will see forest fires like never before and here we are.

 

Fires aren't caused by with heat or drought. They make it worse, but do not cause it.

The California governor is claiming that is evidence of global; warming. Apparently he thinks California is the globe. He forgets that at about the same time, they had an record low temperatures in Colorado and surrounding states. That is the nature of global weather. An extreme temperature in one area is offset by an extreme temperature in the opposite direction somewhere else. Thus the average global temperature remains about the same. This same phenomena has been going for thousands of years.

 

So, your theory is "spontaneous combustion"? except for the lightning... Your 1 and 2 don't actually start fires... Buy hey, you tried to push another false narrative. Brava...

 

Turns out that several of those arrested for arson have ties to BLM and I suppose if we look further into it, ANTIFA. The guy arrested in Oregon has a history of arrests, including one in Fergeson around the time just after the Brown police attack...When MSM don't report these fires as arson, they legitimize the tactic of the left to burnt he house down, so to speak. These folks are terrorists.

 

To be precise, if they were started naturally it would have been by lightning alone in your three possibilities. High temperature unless it gets to around 400 degrees will not start fires; drought does not start fires. If you are talking about the cause of the size of the fires that would be massive dead underbrush and neither lightning, heat or drought (though drought would aggravate it.) AGW is not the cause of the 112 San Diego temp, the drought, or certainly any lightning.

 

I didn't exclude those, but my point was that the vast majority of them were caused by lightning. Lightning is what got the raging fires going, then some copycat morons jump in and start some fires. But to assert they are the reason for the fires, which you are using to justify the right wing narrative 'cult is causing' is bullshit

 

112 degree heat in San Diego is historic. It was close to that the year before, and close to that even a year prior, the high heat period has been getting longer and hotter which each season, and I know this because I live here and I experience it. Concluding it's AGW is logical. The number of incidents of lightning is growing, as well.

Lightning was the main trigger that started the fires. The other factors contribute to acreage, the increase of which is attributable to AGW.


See, deniers say 'no to AGW' because all they are worried about is dems getting elected. If they agree with AGW, since the left has been supporting it ( because that is what scientists say), they worry they won't get elected.

Here's a novel idea, how about setting aside politics and how about addressing the cause and creating policy that will fix it.?

repubs are just worried that they won't get elected if they support AGW, since dems have been saying it a lot more than Repubs. If the Repubs had acknowledged it early on, it wouldn't be a right or left issue , but no, they had to doubt it because they fear hurting the lobby that finances them, the oil lobby. The Grand Oil Party is going to lose, in the end, anyway, so you might as well get with the program.


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Actually, most of the fires were started by dry lightning strikes from storms tossed north by a hurricane off the coast of Baja California, down near Cabo San Lucas. One was started by residents having a "gender reveal" party for a pregnancy and setting off fireworks too close to dry brush.

 

Where did you get that info? QANON or gatewaypundit? Maybe infowars?

 

Trump's response is to blame California for not raking their forests, while ignoring (or ignorant of) the fact that about 57% of California's forests are federal land.

 

Decomposition can start fires as well. This most commonly occurs in piles of wood mulch and compost heaps where the inner layers retain moisture, heat and gasses associated with the bacterial breakdown of organic material which can build to spontaneously combustible levels that quickly burn the drier outside layers and spread to surrounding trees and brush. It is less common in naturally occurring detritis, but happens often enough. Higher temperatures and drier conditions in general probably don't have much effect on whether this process can create an ignition, but it surely has an impact on whether that ignition spreads into a wildfire or not.

 

NYTs, WAPO, WSJ, Local news channels, ... And why do you seem angry about it? Answer the question, did the guy arrested in OR not set those fires, and then got arrested, and then got arrested setting yet more fires, and wasn't he also arrested in Ferguson MO during the Brown police attack riots?

 

Select Agenda driven news sources I'm guessing..

 

Garbage in garbage out high heat assuming it is less than the flash point of various materials doesn't make fires worse or cause them and what do you think the temperature would be if half the state wasn't on fire?

 

57% of the land in California is owned by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ......Dirty Donald is not cleaning up his land.

 

Hmm.. so.... the federal government should take over in CA? Is that your assertion?

 

57% of the 33 million acres of forest lands in California are owned and operated by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT not the state!!!!

 

The state blocks action. And Trump's been trying to change procedures four going on three years.

 

garyd.Can you prove that???