US woman faces huge fine after 'causing coronavirus outbreak in Bavaria'

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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/14/europe/germany-bavaria-outbreak-coronavirus-intl/index.html

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What is this about ...

The 26 year old woman works at Edelweiss Lodge, a US Armed Forces Recreation Center Resort in Garmisch-Partenkirchen (a famous German ski resort village and once also place of Olympic winter games in 1936), operated by the US Army and frequented by US military personnel.
The woman felt sick and showed severe symptoms of COVID-19 disease, which is why she was tested. At the moment it takes about 2 days until a test result is available and in her case the woman is obliged to adhere to quarantine measures.
She didn't do that and during the 2 days "partied" in the US resort as well as in the city itself and infected dozens of other people.

There is now an investigation for possible assault through negligence by the public prosecutor and in addition to possible other criminal and civil law consequences, the woman can expect a fine of 2,000.00 EUR (about 2,380.00 US dollars).

 

I call BS on this. 2000 Euro is not a huge fine.

2 million Euro would be a huge fine.

 

Yep! Must be a avid news watcher - apparently according to research they are less likely to believe the virus even exists

 

It’s still a fine

Imagine if Trump had to pay a fine for every person he endangered

 

I don't know what the woman's monthly salary is, but considering the normal average net salary in Germany ... which is EUR 2,100.00 ... that's a fine that hurts.

 

Tell that to her victims.

 

if she was tested and knew, then yes, she can be held liable

just like having a venereal disease and knowing it and not telling the people one has sex with

 

I think it's the civil lawsuits that she has to worry about

 

If you want to charge a fine for every person infected by COVID-19, then China is the only ones that need to be charged.

 

You won't find much sympathy from US liberals. They are the ones who de criminalized knowingly infecting others with HIV/AIDs. Good luck though. When you discover who infected her, you'll let us know as well, right? Because it seems whoever infected her is just as responsible, no?

 

Germany has never lost its authoritarian style. The US, Britain and Australia emulate them. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

 

Nnnnnope!

THEY did not bungle the pandemic response

 

3 months ago I would have agreed with you regarding the relative innocence of China in this matter.

Today I am not certain of their innocence in bringing this virus upon mankind.

 

only if they are infected by someone that "knows" they have the virus, such as in this case - she went out and partied even though she knew she was infected

 

You breadcrumbing for QANON again?

 

Are you able to discuss things without politics?

 

Wrong.
She was ordered to isolate till she had the test results.
Ignorant, rotten spoiled she ignored that order and went out to party and infected others.
Now she will get her day in court.
By the way her work place, a US Armed Forces recreation hotel, got closed because most of the stuff tested positive.
MAGA

 

Gosh. You sound as if, suddenly, infecting others with dangerous diseases is a bad thing. Where was your voice when CA de criminalized it for HIV/AIDs?

 

Who cares about what CA does, but I consider it wrong, if you have Aids and infect a other person knowingly, you should be charged.
If one of the people this rotten spoiled woman infected dies, she should be charged with manslaughter.
The DA is investigating if she can be charged with assault and correctly so.

 

Facts really are not your strong point are they. All the facts support the claim that China was was working with the coronavirus at their Lab located at Wuhan China, and lost containment. They then failed to notify anyone, or shutdown travel into and out of the city. They hid the existance of the virus for more then a month. They even threatened to jail a doctor that tried to blow the whistle on the situation. He eventually died of the disease. That is the very defination of "bungle the pandemic response"!

The first known case of COVID-19 occured on November 17, 2019. China did not admit there was a problem until December 31. They did not shutdown the Wuhan area until January 23. That is also the day before the start of the Lunar New Year festival in China. It is estimated that more then a million Wuhan Residents traveled outside the city before it was shutdown. During this timeframe, the WHO was issuing statements without having anyone on the ground in China. One of those statements was issued on January 14. It said that there was no evidence of human to human transfer of the virus. This was based on false data that was provided by the Chinese Government. It was not until January 11, that China released the Gnome of the virus to the world. That was after sitting on it for more then a month.

I have to ask you. Doesn't it seem strange to you that the ground zero of this disease is a city that is the home of the Wuhan Institute of Virology? The first cases were supposed to have been traced to a bat bite at the Wuhan Wet Market. There is also a report that the lab was testing how to use bats to spread a coronavirus in a bioterrorism attack. I'm not saying that the release of the virus was necessarily intentional, but does that matter.

I personally think the most accurate information on how how information was being disseminated to the WHO by the Chinese is contained in this NBC article. It shows that the WHO was trying to play nice with the Chinese, and hide their dragging their feet on releasing necessary information. I can understand why the WHO would taken this tact, but I personally think they held on to it too long. I believe that the world's condemnation would have been far more effective then handling the Chinese with kid gloves as they have been doing.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...cientists-early-coronavirus-outbreak-n1222246

President Trump was working with the best information that he had at the time. The CDC, WHO, and the his medical advisors all were providing information that contradicted each other. Everyone should wear masks, only the sick and those treating the sick should wear masks. There is not human to human transfer, Humans can transfer the virus one to another. The fact is that there is nothing that can be done to stop the spread of the disease until there is a working vaccine. Contrary to what the liberals in this country wants us to believe, vaccines takes years to develop. An improper vaccine can be far more devastating then the virus itself. Here in the US there are two vaccines that are undergoing testing right now. I have not seen any data. So, I have no idea on the effectiveness and safety of either of them. The normal process for developing a vaccine takes 12 to 18 months. The President has done everything possible to slow the spread, and work towards ending the pandemic. It is just going to take some time.

But as I said, every case of this flu outside the country of China is on the hands of China itself.

 

The same thing happened in Athens, GA. The woman that organized the BLM protests had already tested positive of COVID-19, but still attended the protests herself. A couple of days later she was dead, and the city had a surge in cases.

Then there is the mayor of Atlanta. She tested positive for the Coronavirus, but refused to self-quarantine or wear a mask in public. All the time fighting the Governor of Georgia because he would not issue a Mandatory Mask Mandate.

Should these women be charged a fine also? How many people do you encounter on a daily basis that are not practicing social distancing, or wearing masks? Should all of them be issued fines?

I have no problem with the woman in Bavaria being charged a fine. Personally, I think it was too low. I was just responding to the individual that thought President Trump should be charged with fines for every person in the US that became ill from the virus. Such a stance is completely ignorant of the facts.

 

hard to punish her if she died, but had she lived, she should have been held liable

just like if one knows they have aids and has sex with women without telling them without protection

 

Of course, the victims have the right to sue the woman for damages, but we don't have any ridiculous million dollar lawsuits like in the USA for something like that.
Why ridiculous? Well ... then she's going to be sentenced to $ 2 million in total damages, what now? Will the woman ever be able to pay that amount of damages? No! And seizures are only possible up to the legal subsistence level! So ... what is the point of such a ridiculous because unrealistic sum?

In general, Tunisia's legal system is far more realistic in such matters. I keep remembering the one judgment where a woman received millions in damages from Mac Donalds for scalding herself on supposedly hot coffee.
In my country she would have gotten a kick in the floss with her lawsuit + notice that her own stupidity does not include a claim for damages! Whether the coffee was a little hotter than usual or not is irrelevant ... Coffee is always hot and that's how you have to handle it!

 

Nevermind those pesky facts, Democrats would rather blame our President and side with China.

 

Very interesting ... but unfortunately none of this is true and / or proven. That China like every country and here as everywhere on the planet many institutes and also pharmaceutical companies work on viruses is completely normal!
Of course there can always be accidents at such companies and institutes ... because nothing is 100% safe!
In my country that happened around 50 years ago in a small town called Marburg ... there is also a pharmaceutical company - Behring - and suddenly people fell ill with a virus from the wider Ebola family line because something went wrong at the company . The virus was then given the name "Marburg Virus".

Unfortunately, nowadays the most absurd conspiracy theories are also wandering through society like a malicious virus. Often times these are well constructed ... like a puzzle or something like that. Various facts, truths, partial facts and half-truths, in which one only takes the appropriate part, but withholds the disturbing rest.
It may be that there was an accident in Wuhan ... but nothing has been proven, nothing at all! And if you look at developments in Wuhan, then compared to previous outbreaks, China has acted more openly and transparently than ever before!

I find this bullshit from Trump with his accusation against China and the WHO just shameful and disgusting! He has already chosen China as the new "Empire of the Evil" with its trade war and he is simply continuing it with Corona. And this is where it gets really disgusting with the attempt to pass on your own inability to handle the virus to others and make them the scapegoat. Why did the virus get so massive in the US, as in many other parts of the world?
Well ... Trump pronounces a travel ban against China, which is OK too, but leaves over 40,000 American citizens and others with valid green cards. In itself that's OK too, because why should they stay in China?
The problem is, however, that these returnees were not tested because there was hardly any test equipment and, at best, they only measured the temperature to see whether any of them had a fever. Nothing more happened and because nothing more than that happened, the virus came to you massively!
And who is responsible for it ... Trump and nobody else!
To blame China and the WHO for this is poor and lame!

Why has no general quarantine of 14 days been made for the returnees? Capable of doing this is the US with the CDC and the US Army. But "Mr. I know everything better and I'm the greatest ever" didn't want to do that!