How Bad Can It Get: The destruction of liberty and quality of life

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  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We will likely see 250k deaths from COVID over one year. So using your numbers above it is 37% as deadly as heart attacks, 41% as deadly as cancer... If someone told everyone they could cut their risk of cancer and heart attack by even 10% simply by wearing a mask and washing their hands most people would jump at this. Except Republicans of course.

    It is interesting that you say COVID is a “small number” when it is currently the third leading cause of death in America. Strange times we live in.
     
  2. Robert

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    It is not 6 percent that die (as of now) from CV19, it is well below 1 percent or just over half of one tenth of one percent.

    Factor in we have not had deaths for a full year, and even if you double the rate, it is perhaps going to be 2 tenths of one percent.

    I frankly believe the scare is a product from the hard core Democrats own news media. We are being led around the nose by the Democrats media.
     
  3. Lesh

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    Are you talking about a per cent of the total population?

    Per cent of infected?

    Per cent of confirmed infected?

    Clearly it is not an insignificant number. Two Hundred Ten Thousand. That's the entire population of a midsize city
     
  4. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But three people in Bengazi... that was unthinkable! I still remember the outrage directed at Hillary
     
  5. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Percent of total population since so few get the disease at all.

    I do the same thing as to heart disease, cancer disease and other costly issues.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hillary was in charge of those who died at Benghazi. She said who cares anyway?
     
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    Its the same premise;

    You drive drunk and you may or may not kill yourself, or worse, someone's meemaw.

    You go around with Covid 19 and don't know it but don't wear a mask or keep your distance from others, you might kill someone's meemaw.

    Sure, you might not infect meemaw directly. Maybe you infect her granddaughter who infects her father who infects her meemaw.

    Or you don't have the virus, refuse to wear a mask and keep your distance from others, contract Covid 19 and die even though you're young, white and healthy.

    Even though MOST people will just be a little sick from this virus and live, there are cases where it is really deadly no matter what your age or race or preexisting health issue might be.

    You want to roll the dice, be my guest. Visit an intensive care unit with Covid 19 paitents and take a deep breath...

    Otherwise, realize this isn't about you or your small group of friends in your small town...

    Know this;

    I am an essential worker, I have to work in a room where it is difficult to keep social distance and I have to wear a mask for every hour of my 10 hour day.

    It sucks, but if I found out I infected my co-worker who then infected their mother, and she died... I don't want to know how that would go.
     
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  8. cd8ed

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    trump was responsible for handling the viral outbreak and said “They are dying, that's true. And you have — it is what it is. But that doesn't mean we aren't doing everything we can. It's under control as much as you can control it. This is a horrible plague”

    Btw, Hillary actually said, “With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they’d they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again”

    There is no need to lie about what others said or to try and take it out of context — it just makes your argument look dishonest.
     
  9. Lesh

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    I hope you realize that the number will be ever increasing as more people get this horror and DIE

    The number that matters is the number of infected people who will DIE from this thing

    And we're looking at a quarter million dead folks by the election, Robert

    A QUARTER MILLION DEAD...and counting

    And oh yea...so far...7 million "have got the disease" (so few huh...)
     
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    You and others yammer about that number like it is significant.

    It's not.
     
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  11. Lesh

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    Hillary was talking about an event that has happened in the PAST where four people regrettably died. It was OVER.

    Trump is blowing off two HUNDRED THOUSAND deaths...and 500-1000 people are dying every day...STILL

    Kinda different...ya think?
     
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    And if the Democrats win the Presidency and/or take control of the Senate you'll have to eat those words because the GOPs belligerent ignorant arrogance on all things COVID is the primary driving force behind independents like myself either voting for Democratic candidates out of spite or otherwise sitting this election out by not voting for Republican ones. Death is significant. I would think members of the so called pro-life party would have a more compassionate reaction.

    I've been warning right-wingers for months now that they could be trading their vision of America away over something imbecilic as anti-masking and COVID denying - well, now its looking like that just might be the outcome. If it happens the pundits are going to blame a whole host of things but take it from me, the real silent majority this election is going to be Independent voter pissed off about how Pres Trump and other GOP elected officials have utterly failed to deal with COVID.
     
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  13. cd8ed

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    I bet the people that lost their parent, sibling, grandparents, family member of friend thanks it is “significant”.

    Such a callous ideology the right wing has embraced
     
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    You are correct. Looks like I don't know where to put the decimal point.
     
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    I am sure she would appreciate you labeling her death as insignificant.\
    Callous was the wrong word.
     
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    I bet you wouldn't like it if I said that in the abortion forum...
     
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    Gotta love it, soon it will be 300,000, 350,000 dead. Then 400,000 dead. Then at some point most everyone will have to take notice that with a half a million dead in one year, none of us know anyone who died from it.

    Don't believe everything the media tells you. There are no piles of bodies and the homeless population is just fine here in Austin with used masks and gloves everywhere.
     
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    WTF?
     
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    I'm pretty sure I know the opinion of a close family member of mine better than you do.
     
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    This thread and the event it describes proves again that truth is stranger than fiction.

    Just yesterday a friend was describing how he had seen a person doing just that.

    Men go mad in herds, but recover their senses slowly, and only one by one.
     
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    You are far more dangerous to society than I am from your commentary.

    For example, you would be around far more humans than I am. And of those, some could be infected. And you wear a portable mask and the typical human touches their hand or face a few times per hour. That Covid you have on your mask is touched. I doubt you wash your hands perhaps dozens of times per hour. And when taking off that infected mask, are you using gloves to handle it and is it disinfected.

    It is a miracle a good high percentage do not get CV 19 to the point it is a death sentence and only under a tenth of a percent end up dying.
     
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    It’s not that hard to hit your hands with disinfectant after you remove your mask.

    That’s just lame
     
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    I am sure you do Dayton. :oldman:
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My son calls the doorknob on the toilet the dick hand nob.

    So tell me how he can keep his hands clean given he must leave the toilet?
     
  25. Lesh

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    Wash his ****ing hands?
     
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