U of Minnesota -- 12 step recovery program for whiteness

Only if you are unable to read...
I have nothing against one and the other already has legal kinship

I agree with you, race is protected — as is sexual orientation per the 14th

Feel free to continue to whine about being white. Cheers

 

Love is also irrelevant, it is a contract.
Still waiting on anything to come and bite anyone, the apocalypse that so many of you screamed would come hasn’t occurred.

 

Lol please show me where the 14th protects sexual orientation. That no more protects sexual orientation than it does incestuous couples and polygamists.

And don’t think I didn’t notice your equivocation and acceptance of explicit government sponsored racism against whites as being justified because people of the same white skin color discriminated against blacks years ago.

But run away while you still can

 

What are you talking about? We already have one incestuous couple suing for their right to marriage using the EXACT same arguments the homosexuals used and we have scientific publications which are advocating for the decriminalization of pedophilia and the renaming of them as MAPs (minor attracted persons) and it’s only been a few years.

 

No scientific publication I have seen is advocating the decriminalization of pedophilia — post a source. Anyone can sue for any reason.
As for MAP, that acronym has existed for decades and is used in the treatment of sex offenders — both offending and non offending — as well as in research.

 

All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

This protects all Americans, including groups you don’t like. Sorry
SCOTUS agreed

Please show me where I have ever stated I accept racism in any direction? I understand it’s flawed reasoning but agree it shouldn’t exist,
There is no need to lie. I think you are using words you don’t completely comprehend the meaning of...

 

Then how does that interpretation not cover incestuous and polygamous partners?

You stated, and I quote, “It’s almost like some of those groups have been discriminated against for generations — by the very groups that are now screaming about it... Strange times we live in”

In the context of being presented with evidence of whites being discriminated against today.

 

There wouldn’t have been slavery in the the US if Black people in Africa didn’t sell their own people to white traders. But I guess ignorant Leftists think a boat with a handful of white guys just washed up on the shores and started easily plucking black people off the beaches like coconuts as the rest of the tribes just watched.

If these Historical “scholars” were at least honest about where it started, we could have honest conversations about racism NOW.

 

It does, well — should at least using a strict reading of the constitutional language used. The courts haven’t heard a case yet.


Also, You realize that people can follow threads back and see the mistruths you are trying to spread:

Is your narrative really so fragile that you must lie about what is being said to justify it?

 

Don’t forget. The ones who were sold into slavery were mostly engaged in tribal warfare but had the misfortune to lose. But what if their tribe had won? They would have enslaved the other tribe and sold them off.

So in reality all the white people did was enslave slavers, who were actively engaged in the slave trade, that had the misfortune of getting caught up in their own devices. What’s the old saying? Live by the sword, die by the sword?

Isn’t that what leftists today call “justice”?

 

That sums up the entire argument nicely, you are fine with discrimination as long as long as you get to do it...

Shameful

 

I didn’t lie. I QUOTED you. I can’t help it that you’re engaged in hypocrisy.

 

Again, using words you don’t understand

 

No I want either for discrimination based upon race to be acceptable or for it not to be acceptable. What I will not accept is government discrimination against whites while governmental discrimination against other races is unconstitutional.

 

Well let’s make this very clear then. Should those programs which I listed earlier that discriminate against whites end or not? Irrespective of any other factor.

 

You have made your point exceedingly apparent
Discrimination is fine as long as you can discriminate

 

Yes, I have stated so three times in this very thread. Now four times. But here you are arguing it is fine as long as you can do it to others.

 

That’s because that’s NOT how it is right now. Right now it IS acceptable to discriminate against whites but no other race.

But I don’t hear you crying about that inequality unless someone prompts you to.

 

Seeing that you missed what I said four times in this very thread I don’t doubt you have missed many things others have said.

A good argument is discrimination is wrong
A bad argument is discrimination is fine as long as I get to be the one discriminating

I am not surprised you believe they are interchangeable.

Let’s see if you feel different when whites and the religiously afflicted become minorities — which will likely happen in your lifetime.

 

That’s NOT what I said. I said I’m fine with discrimination or not having discrimination. I did not say I was fine if only my group gets to discriminate. That’s exactly how the left operates today. If you don’t you are the exception and not the rule.

By the way, whites will not become a minority in this country for far longer after you and I are both dead. Non-whites is not a group. The idea whites will be a minority is only true if you add all the non-whites together. Whites make up 65% of this country. Even if they fell below 50% they’d still be the majority.

 

And I just want to make sure I understand your position. So you fully recognize the blatant discrimination and racism against whites IN EXPLICIT GOVERNMENT POLICY. But even though you recognize that gross systemic injustice, you prefer to spend your time complaining about the individualized inequities and anecdotal examples of bigotry against blacks and homosexuals?

If you’ve spoken out against the ACTUAL inequities faced by whites through governmental, institutionalized racism without being prompted in this forum, then by all means present the link and I’ll be happy to apologize.

But I have a feeling I’ll be waiting a long time.

 

And as a slight digression I would just like to point out that to assert that what the homosexuals went through or were fighting for in regards to marriage was even REMOTELY comparable to what the interracial couples were fighting for is so incredibly disingenuous.

Interracial couples were actually fighting for the right to marry. Meaning it was illegal. If you saw an interracial couple getting married in the park, you could call the police and have the ceremony broken up and the people involved charged.

But homosexuals weren’t fighting for the right to get married. They already had that right. If two homosexuals wanted to get married in the park, have all their friends and family attend, say their little vows and go on their honeymoon and live happily ever after.. nobody would or could legally stop them.

What homosexuals wanted was for their marriages to be legally recognized by the government so that they could attain the benefits that come from that arrangement. Fighting for the right to get married and fighting for the right to have your marriage legally recognized by the state so that you can get government benefits are two wholly different things and it’s outrageously dishonest to equate the two.

 

No one has any reason to ever apologize for their race. That's not what defines you and anyone who wants to shame you or talk down to you because of it is not someone to listen to. They care more about your appearance then they do about who you are as a person. Just ignore them and go about your day.

 

Yeah, they might make a bigger impact with a class explaining moral luck, rather than one that seems to drag "whiteness."

 

Sure. Throughout history when anti-fascists and anti-racist groups together spring up in reaction to an environment it’s a freaking flashing neon red sign.

Addressing rot in an environment doesn’t piss me off.