If Biden wins, he should pardon Donald Trump

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    You have four years of conspiracy theories coming out of Trumps mouth, from the virus will disappear “shortly” in warm weather to Hillary, Biden and Obama being brought up on charges and yet.....noting but people dying and an economy in shambles. No charges, no improvement in death and infection rates. He’s the fking president with all the resources on his side and those resources, refute Trump at every turn. You guys are buying this crap ?
     
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    Huh ? It’s a sham story. The other side is giving it no credibility. Even the advisors to Trump are telling him Rudy is working for the Russians as an asset dumping this story.
     
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    I only read page 1 of this long thread so maybe others have made these points, already (if so, pardon me). Some Trumpers here have mentioned that there isn't a prosecutable offense yet. The issue, is, there are investigations. And even if a pardon is issued (more likely to be a resignation a few days before transferring power so that Pence pardons him, rather than Biden pardoning him), there is still the matter of state prosecution that can't be the subject of a federal pardon.

    "The New York attorney general is also proceeding with a separate civil investigation into the Trump Organization and whether it improperly inflated the value of certain assets in some instances and lowered them in others, in an effort to secure loans and obtain economic and tax benefits. Investigators are looking into the tax breaks taken at the Trump Seven Springs property in Bedford, New York, and the Trump National Golf Club in Los Angeles. They are also investigating the valuation of a Trump office tower on Wall Street and the forgiveness of a more than $100 million loan on the Trump International Hotel and Tower in Chicago."

    I got the above from CNN so Trumpers here will shoot the messenger and discredit the source, but it's just to say that Trump will likely face state prosecutors too, and from those, a pardon won't shield him.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/17/politics/trump-election-legal-reckoning/index.html
     
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    This.
     
  5. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    The Post is a conservative checkout counter tabloid.
    Fox News is the checkout counter news source of “journalism.”

    It’s the world that Trump lives in. Real people making real decisions don’t use them for sources. Trump and his whole private establishment, are frauds.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and Trump has failed to deny that he is a murderer
     
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    Why have has the NY not disclosed this evidence?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    trial is upcoming.

    once Trump loses election, he will be indicted and evidence will be presented to the judge and jury
     
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    and you know this how? What do you have to support your accusations?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    NY AG already said they are investigating Trump for Tax fraud.
     
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    Not surprising. The Mainstream media is in the tank for the Biden campaign and the democrats and are more than happy to keep their voters in the dark. Go right ahead and vote for Biden. I have no worries. If he were to win, his scandal and impeachment will end the democrats. Think about that before you go into the booth.
     
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    I've had 4 years of Russia Hoax conspiracy theory.
     
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    Wow. And the Russian hoax never ends.
     
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    The Post is the 5th largest newspaper in the country and was established by Alexander Hamilton in 1801.
     
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    The Watergate investigation took just over two years. It was on television a lot. My great-aunt had it on constantly. I was eight at the time it started; I just saw boring men in suits and couldn't imagine what was so fascinating.

    Ford believed the country was tired, and not interested in seeing this go on and on. I think he made the right call.

    Compared to Hillary and her email crimes, what Nixon did was a total nothing burger.
     
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    Biden has failed to accuse him of murder.
     
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    The grand jury stopped hearing Mueller's case long ago and Mueller stated he was bringing no charges and disband the prosecution. What grand jury named him as an unindicted co-conspirator?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    where was Trump on the night Seth Rich was murdered?

    i think we have a right to know. why wont he answer this question???
     
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    as a native NYer, I can tell you with great confidence that the NY Post became a right-wing trash tabloid decades ago. Nobody respects them for any news other than very local stuff.
     
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    Because he's not accused of that by anyone.
     
  21. PatriotNews

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    Yeah. They said the same about the National Inquirer and their blue dress story.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and yet Trump hasn't come up with a reasonable alliby.

    what's he hiding?????
     
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    Enjoy your trolling.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what's Trump hiding? why wont he tell us where he was?????

    hmmm?
     
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    Do you ever have an intellectually serious argument?
     

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