Why Masks are Ineffective, Unnecessary, and Harmful

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  1. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, and similarly if women made 70% of what men made for the same work there would be no men working in the US today.
     
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    His chart doesn't prove anything but it is a fine example of "how to lie with statistics".
     
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    October 25 was a Sunday.

    If you look at charts weekends are always lower

    Why? Because numbers don't come in accurately on weekends
     
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    Each bar represents a day. I have developed the ability to count. I counted so you didn’t have to but you can check my work. Unfortunately CNN is not particularly technologically advanced. If you had paid attention to your link you would have noticed it only supplied the first of each month for dates on their graphs. Is that a problem?
    The state mandated. Counties opted in or out first week of July. Some that opted out in July opted in later. Some opted in but did not enforce. Some of them enforced at later dates.
    I specifically told you why accusing me of cherry picking would be counterproductive. It was a trap you are now ensnared in. The dates are as I say. If you need to find someone else to count bars on a graph for you besides me, feel free to do so. Now back to the trap. Maybe you would like to explain why masks didn’t work in the three counties I provided data for. I mean if they work they should work everywhere, right? If not, you have to admit there are other non controlled for factors at play in this “study”. If you can’t admit that, you are not the man of science you believe yourself to be. :)
    That’s pretty accurate. Except Sedgwick “came on board” in July, they just didn’t enforce until Sept. 9. And as soon as Sedgwick started enforcing the mask mandate, cases skyrocketed. Proof enforced mask mandates work! :)
     
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    Yep. They’ve been snookered. Again. :)
     
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    It’s going to be fun watching you maskers try to force us to take the quack doctors’ COVID vaccine. Because you maskers are simply vaxxers united under a different flag. You were undoubtedly the hockey stick-wielding climate change alarmists from 11 years ago as well.
     
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    Nice to see that as long as you feelz safer the rest of the country can starve while we "temporarily shutdown"... How generous of you.
     
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    Draconian stay at home orders in states with Democratic governors, or cities with democratic mayors???
     
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    Ill tell you this. You are persistent. I suppose it doesn't matter to you that lots of places already have mask mandates, and that folks are following them, and the infection rates are still rising. Explain that. And if you suggest that lockdown are effective, explain residual infections during one. You can't, but you're still willing to make folks suffer. I find that pretty selfish on your part. Its the equivalent of me saying, well, when I drive, I don't want any other schmucks on the road at the same time cause I'm fearful that they will run into me and damage my car or kill me. so, everyone else stay home so I can enjoy the drive. Kind of like how ms Whitmer in MI decided that only her husband could ignore her lockdown so he could go fishing unimpeded by others. This really is the let them eat cake BS that the plantation class seem to believe they are entitled to.

    Oh, and if all of these things are so dangerous, why aren't you screaming for the looting and rioting to stop? Super spreader parties at Walmart not your thing?
     
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    How many thousands of people go into the White house in only one week? Ever wonder why you are so scared?
     
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    "Lots of places"...I guess you don't get it. Masks alone aren't enough and "lots of places" isn't enough. Half measures give inferior results.

    Dr. Birx was just saying yesterday how scarce mask wearing was in North Dakota...which is getting HAMMERED by the virus

    No they are not. Half measures do not work
     
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    You tell me. How many of them wear masks. We KNOW the Trump team rarely wore them. Hell Mark Short STILL wouldn't wear one after Trump got infected so of course he is now infected as well as 4 others on his staff
     
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    Half measures? You mean like when Nancy wants to get a blowout, or when Andy or Chris want to take steroids and go to the gym? Ok, I want the road to myself, stay home so I can feel as entitled and not have to worry about those "half measures" you're worried about.
     
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    From the quoted link

    Wearing a mask is not a "silver bullet" though, as every area of the state has seen an increase in hospitalizations, but the growth "has been most dramatic in hospitals that draw a large percentage of patients from areas without mask requirements."

    It may not just be masks that are slowing the spread, as areas with a mask requirement are also more likely to have other mitigation strategies in place.
     
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    The progressives are attempting to “Gruber” the American public again.
     
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    As long as we don't get "Trumped" again
     
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    North Dakota has had an increase in new daily cases and fatalities which peaked ~ 2 weeks ago and is now trending down. The maximum daily fatality number occurred on October 18th at 18. Yesterday the number was 12.
     
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    The correct way to "determine" if masks work is by doing a proper regression analysis in which all factors are considered. And that would only indicate if there is an actual correlation. That has not been done in Kansas.
     
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    Yes, places with competent governments that care about the lives of their citizens have stopped the flu with their anti-Covid measures.
     
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    New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Illinois, Kalifornia all seem to undermine your assertion. But sure you try some more....
     
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    Still no major flu outbreaks...
     
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    Those roughly 65K deaths would seem to undermine your assertion. Just sayin...
     
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    Because they are zealots and evangelists, and desperate to boot?
     
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    Yep. We have to use the same standard of “proof” as we do remdesivir or hydroxychloroquine or anything else.
     

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