Why Masks are Ineffective, Unnecessary, and Harmful

A mask is like a condom with holes in it.

 

Show the study. Strong scientific evidence only please

 

We can do a study. We will give you the placebo.

 

So since one Dr. out of several thousand don't agree with evidence, his suggestion is the one we need to listen to? I see he peer-reviewed thousands of medical research studies. Has the scientific community taken any of them seriously or has he proven any theory wrong in the process? Which studies did he review? Does anyone have the list?

Who has a list of the studies? And more importantly did the study include if all users wore a mask? We have overwhelming evidence that if you start making everyone wear masks the infection rate declines.

Again sources would be necessary to analyze if the studies had all wearers using a mask. Point and studies are moot if that isnt the case.

This would be great information if the planet was only occupied by children. Secondly the numbers don't sound so bad when to say them fast but you look at what two percent of the human population, it best to not make dumb decisions and gamble with that many lives.

Need sources for any of these claims.

Jim Meehan is an anti-vaxer that you can clearly see has a pointed agenda. I didn't dig to far into his character but a simple google search sets off alarms.

TL;DR

The information posted above is not credited and missing huge gaps of information to be able to properly analyze. The doctor quoted is a bit of a chook.

 

The CDC admits that surgical and cloth masks do not protect from covid infection. The science shows that aerosol particles (< 1 micron) from normal breathing pass directly through these types of masks. The only benefit of these type of masks is attenuation of large droplets produced from coughing/sneezing and the vast majority of people cover their mouth when coughing. That's all you need to know.

If you want to wear a mask 24/7 no one is going to stop you but don't rely on the mask to protect you or others.

BTW - Attacking sources and name calling indicate lack of argument.

 

Unless they also indicate goofiness.

 

I think you're against masks. But why this anti-Semitic filth?

 

And it's going to be fun sad watching anti-maskers refuse to take a vaccine for a virus which produces a disease that can cause heart and liver damage all because of partisan spite. No doubt we'll have countless Americans putting themselves, their families, and their communities at risk by not taking a vaccine simply because it would 'stick it the libruls'.

And for the record I was a Conservative Republican for 20 years right up until this year when the GOP's response to COVID demonstrated that conservative values were so easily rendered null and void out of spite for "the liberals". Generally speaking: Republicans set fiscal responsibility in favor of bailouts for huge corporations that could have managed their finances with salary cuts for their highest earners, but no we middle class tax payers cover that instead. Republicans abandoned their stance against fake news by accepting every pseudo-science misrepresentation and outright nut-job lie about how 'masks don't work'. And most damning of all, Republicans sinfully rejected their fealty to our Lord and his command to love and care for others by willfully and intentionally refusing to adhere to social distancing, lockdowns, occupancy controls, and mask mandates.

But with any luck the Democrats will take complete control of government and then they can begin to strip people of their 'right' (I use that word with extreme sarcasm as you don't have any right whatsofkinever to bring harm onto others) to refuse to fight this virus properly. And you know what, the damage that they will undoubtedly do to our economy will be our involuntary penance because we could have beat this thing together long ago. But no, pigheaded right-wingers had to go around acting like COVID was some DNC plot to take out Pres Trump. What we have sown we shall reap.

 

If you're under the opinion that masks aren't necessary to control COVID then you 'understand and follow' Alex Jones level pseudo-science.

 

That isn't all I need to know. Is that information if only a non-infected user wears a mask? What are the reductions if the infected user also wears a mask?

The doctor is a chook, google him. Also you supplied a blog as information without evidence. You're taking all the information from this person as fact and did zero research on his standing in the scientific and medical community.

 

I said radical Marxists who call themselves 'progressives' as to not paint with too large a brush but yes many (or maybe even most) progressives are Marxists.

 

The vast majority of fake Progressives are establishment Dems that are reactionary as much, or more, than they are Democrat/Progressive/anything Centrist or Left of center.

This is Right wing country, at the moment. Radical marxists aren't a lot more common than unicorns...

 

Defund police, eliminate boarders, wealth redistribution, court packing, adding new states, etc, these aims, driven by clearly defined class structures, are intent on deleting America and installing something new. That is near-exactly what Marxism is/achieves and that is what is in power on the left right now. Regardless of if left-wing voters think they are Marxists or not - they are enabling it, supporting it, and participating in it.

 

So you have nothing?
Thought so

 

Your post reminds me of an old saying I read once: when tyranny is abroad submission is a crime.

 

I know the science of the CDC and many other sources. Surgical and cloth masks do not stop aerosols produced in normal breathing. That is fact based.

 

There are no reductions. Aerosols flow right through surgical and cloth masks. That is a scientifically proven fact.

 

I have the smart people. You have - well, you.

 

Its how they define "stop" that exposes them. These anti-maskers think the benchmark is binary, either a perfect 100% reduction in transmissibilty or a 0% outright failure. They, and the people who don't even understand that's whats going on, think they're just so clever with this approach, as if it somehow vindicates their asinine belief - it don't. What is asked of the average person is to wear a facecovering for the purpose of reducing the volume and coverage area of potentially COVID containing bodily spew. The better the mask, the more layers or more effective materials, the greater the effect.

Its all RNG but anti-maskers and re-open crusaders act like a single case justifies abandoning our efforts. Condoms can break, we still put them on. Guns can jam, we still take them to war. Seat-belts wont always save your life in a car wreck, though we still require people to wear them (laughably ironic that it requires a law that is in constant need of enforcement).

Please just wear a mask.

 

then you should be able to show some of these smart peoples' work.
Let's go Mr Science, .......or go home with tail tucked.

 

I wear a mask where it is required by law. That is the only reason I wear one. I wear it with the knowledge that it provides no protection from the virus nor provides no prevention from the spread of the virus. And I completely understand that the same applies to those wearing masks around me.

Please do not assume that masks protect you and prevent the spread of the virus to those around you.

 

It was the experts who said wearing a mask was stupid and actually made it more likely for you to catch it, remember? Hydroxy helps fight one of the damages COVID can cause you wouldn't take it you contracted the virus?

 

Throwing a bunch of childish BS against the wall doesn't help you.

 

More recently, the filtration efficiency of surgical masks and N95 FFRs against MS2 virus particles in the 10–80 nm range was reported (Balazy et al. 2006). Penetration levels of one of the two surgical mask models tested increased with increasing particle size from 10 to 50 nm, and then plateaued at 20% up to 80 nm diameter at 85 liters/minute flow rates. A similar penetration pattern was obtained at 30 liters/minute flow rate, with a maximum penetration level of 13%. Another surgical mask showed a steady increase in penetration levels up to approximately 80% with increase in particle size from 10 nm to 80 nm.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7357397/

 

Aerosol droplets from normal breathing are less than 1 micron in diameter. The virus is spread in the aerosol droplets.