I feel broken, devastated, and exhausted.

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Again, still not false. See the previously provided video. Try asking yourself what makes their media section different from comments and forums. Think critically.
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because when the holy Democratic candidate loses, Democrat leaders and pundits turn into total buttheads. We understand that "shared Americanism" when Democrat leaders request that means "agree and obey, or be the enemy who should just shut up and smile...or be censored".

    Biden is calling for unity.

    Michelle Obama is still calling half the country supporters of lies, chaos, and division. Not a great message about "reaching out".

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    Or how about when a "conservative" NeverTrumper says that every Republican should be kicked out of power and the party should be burned down...and everyone on the panel nods their heads vigorously in approval?



    How about when black people are conservative Republicans, Democrats practically "lynch them" in public?




    How about we go for "unity" when your party leaders stop being viscous and hateful when our party leaders simply disagree on opinions and issues? I don't think that's going to happen until 2024 at the earliest, and only then when your party's organization stops acting like totalitarian characters out of George Orwell's 1984.
     
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    Badaboom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol. If you have to restrict to only a few chosen people, you know your position is not defensible.
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    I could list examples for days, did you have access to any news over the last 4 years? Those are just 2 of the more egregious examples.
     
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    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    We could continue this senseless tit-for-tat until the cows come home, but what would it gain for either of us? Is it really that hard for you to clense your heart of this negativity & begin to see the light within all of us as Americans? Just because we have differing opinions doesn't make us enemies. We're still Americans. Try to see the positives again, & shed the detritus of all that anger & hatred. If I can, you can. Join me. :)
    Are you going to allow yourself to get stuck in those 4 years? Or, are you adult enough to learn everything you can from that experience & use it to transform your next 4 years into something magnificent for you & this country? We're all Americans. We need to reunite. It's your choice whether to become part of that healing, or whether to remain a naysayer, blamefinder & divider. It's a powerful choice--a life changing one. Hope you make the right one. :)
     
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    Badaboom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    8 years, we had to listen to you scream about birth certificate... 8 ****ing years.
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    As a Trump supporter I was declared the "enemy" countless times over 4 years, some on the left vow to remember us and never forget, their "olive branch" is fashioned into a club.
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Probably a good idea to clear that up, before running for President.
     
  9. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    You know what they say, 'it ain't over until the fat lady sings".....Well......

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    btthegreat Well-Known Member

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    I might have had some sympathy with an anti-trust/ anti-monopoly argument, if these same conservative types had offered some sympathy when we were trying to protect those anti-trust bills from conservative attacks. It was a series of progressive legislation over several decades ( Sherman anti-trust, Federal Commission Act, Clayton Anti-trust Act) on which their current case might best rest - except none of them said a peep when Reagan and Bush tried to gut the laws and their enforcement. https://www.persee.fr/doc/rfea_0397-7870_1984_num_21_1_1187

    Let them create their own platform/ business model and compete with these social media giants and stop whining about how Facebook, or Twitter or You tube decide to monitor the content on their sites.
     
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    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    Although I am a liberal, I have had to live with several conservative Presidents. It was difficult, but I always felt I should honor our election system & abide by its choices as best I could. Now, after Trump, that feeling is even stronger, because Trump forced us to look at how vulnerable our democracy really was. I've seen Republican conservatives struggling with Trump just like me, & it made me respect them more than I ever did before. Now I feel a sense of brotherhood with them, even though I still feel uncomfortable with many of their stances on issues. I don't expect the American electorate to renominate or reelect Trump in the future. I am hopeful that more mature, sensible conservatives will emerge to grab hold of Republican leadership soon. America has always thrived on moderates from both parties being elected into office. Somehow we drifted away from that balance. We need to reconnect with it. I am personally pretty far left in my views. But I recognize the majority of Americans aren't with me. I care about the country & its people more than I care about getting my way politically, so I'm open to compromise. I just have to be convinced that compromise is good for the country. I am convinced Biden is sincere in his effort to reunite this nation after years of harsh division. He knows it can be done, but we have to be there with him in the process if it is to succeed. I want it to succeed. I'd much prefer living with my fellow Americans in open but friendly disagreement, than to continue this extremist polarization that's making some Americans see other Americans as their enemy. That's a bridge too far.
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Legal Eagle is a partisan hack. Never go to him. I've seen plenty of lawyers criticize that numbskull. He allows his partisan bias to filter into his youtube legal opinions. Here is a far more balanced lawyer that tries very hard to be neutral when talking about the law. His playlist for CDA 230 starts here:
     
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    nobodyspecific Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    While I may be opposed to some of your positions, I agree with your plan to take some time off politics. Thinking about politics every day is not healthy and mentally fatiguing. Part of why I tend to take days off of it when I feel things getting heated - you need some days of rest.

    Be well, and know that R's will most certainly have other wins down the line, even if they lost the oval office this time.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Can you actually address any of the content in the video? If the law were already on your side, we'd have nothing to discuss, and LE goes over a specific case that proves your position incorrect.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    What disinformation would that be?
     
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    God & Country Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, what a coinkydink huh?
     
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    clennan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, it's not false.

    Section 230 removed the distinction between distributors (or "platforms" as you put it) and publishers that exists in the "real world", so that it doesn't apply to online entities.

    Perhaps this article might help. There's no shortage of information on section 230, should you care to learn more.

    Section 230 Basics: There Is No Such Thing As A Publisher-Or-Platform Distinction

    https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...ng-as-publisher-or-platform-distinction.shtml
     
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    Xyce Well-Known Member

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    Here's a video to lift your spirits



    Also, it's not over yet. Biden is not officially declared the president; Biden, that demented fool, is only supposedly the president-elect. Now there is a litigation process, which will probably involve recounting and auditing in which we may find evidence of Democrat corruption. Just try to keep in mind that a lot of the Democrats with the insanity of TDS are boiling that he has not conceded yet and they may be in for a rude awakening if this Biden win is but a mirage.

    Keep the faith, friend.
     
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    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    I guess, all those lawmakers were wrong when they called to review social media under 230. And the CEOs continued mumbling about importance of letting their companies keep the status. They were wrong too.
     
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    clennan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have no idea what you're attempting to say here.

    If you're familiar with what Section 230 actually is, my post makes perfect sense.
     
  21. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Yeh, what prison can we write to? Oh, the United States of America? But that's certainly no prison. That's the greatest nation in the world.

    Maybe you should get off Zoom and go outside, put your mask on and talk to some strangers.

    The first thing you'll notice is that actual people don't freeze up and go silent every few minutes. It takes some getting used to but it's far less annoying.
     
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    The sun burns my skin.
     
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    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    You are correct that we're not at "Unity" now. Biden just started getting people thinking about it two days ago. Reuniting a badly divided nation is a challenge that will naturally take some time. It's a process. But I wanted to be on the leading edge of that movement, since I agree with Biden on its seriousness. I see the damage already done by the division. We must reconnect with our vast areas of common ground & stop letting our differences rule over us. It's crucial. I know you have harsh feelings. So do I. But our country is more important than our feelings. Let's do this for our country. :gop::):democrat:
     
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    Liberals know how you feel — conservatives trump supporters spent four years mocking, trolling, posting meme’s laughing at people upset about the election (people that were actually concerned of losing rights), calling them snowflakes and cheering when the president openly said he did not represent them.

    Thankfully you will not have to endure that, Biden will be a president for all Americans, trolling will not be his primary qualification by his base.

    These allegations of fraud are likely what all of trumps lawsuits have been, ways to get more money or ways to stall.
     
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    Exactly, just because liberals want to force low income housing for 3rd world immigrants/minorities into our white middle class communities at the point of a federal gun, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they will demonize us and get us fired from our jobs for saying that we honor the national anthem, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they will censor anybody who espouses beliefs that conform to our worldview, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they say they should stop burning their own communities and take the violence to the suburbs, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they topple the statues that are sacred to us (Washington and Lincoln), they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they accuse us of being racist because we are white, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they demand that the federal government take from us to give to others based on our race, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they call us white supremacists and deplorables, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they revere mass murderers such as Stalin, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they want to demolish the 1st and 2nd amendments, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they support Chinese government investment in all of our media companies, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they blamed America for the Chinese flu instead of the Chinese government, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they brazenly brag and crow about moving to Red communities and turning them Blue, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they love Islam and hate Christianity, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they support cross dressing men having story time with our young children, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they support hormone treatments for children (which will make them infertile) to change their gender, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they support destroying women's sports with cross-dressing men, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they support divisive leftist propaganda in every hobby, sport, comic, TV show, commercial or movie, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they support victim status for violent thugs who get killed in commission of a violent crime, they aren't our enemies
    Just because they have created several thousand DOCUMENTED AND PROVEN hate hoaxes across the nation, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they terrorize ordinary citizens trying to eat a meal or drive on the highway, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they characterize burning/looting/beating/murder as "peaceful protests"... until they blame it on us, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they support homeless people living out in the open and defecating all over their cities, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they supported destroying the jobs and businesses of millions of Americans to win an election, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they assert Covid is dangerous when conservatives meet but not when leftist's riot or celebrate, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they jail us in clear cases of self defense while freeing a stone cold leftist killer caught on tape, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they support neolib/neocon war profiteering that harms America's interests and generates millions of Muslim refugees, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they oppose any legislation that would help the middle class, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they support a regressive energy tax on the middle/working classes for the profit of the powerful, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they support the decimation of our energy security for the benefit of China, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they infiltrate our communities' school systems and then sue when we attempt to fire them, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they want the federal government involved in every facet of our lives, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they hate America and love globalism, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they want to burn our history and rewrite it with lies, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they openly state that they must win BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY, they aren't our enemies.
    Just because they support terrorist organizations like BLM/AntiFa, they aren't our enemies.

    C'mon fellas, the liberals are just fine Americans like you and I. They just want to be friends. This obviously isn't a totally Stalinist move where you force EVERYBODY at the point of a gun to announce their love for you.... it isn't that at all.... not even a little bit. These guys are NOT using Orwell as field guide, I swear they aren't.
     
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