House will vote on cannabis legalization bill in December

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Do you celebrate this win for Lady Liberty

  1. Yes - Pot should have been legalized a long time ago

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  2. No - I love the nanny -State.

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/09/house-vote-cannabis-legalization-435591

    Its about time - finally these dingbat Dems are doing what should have been done as soon as popular support went above 33% (No folks - its not 50% - that is "Tyranny of the Majority)

    To mess with essential liberty you need 67% - overwhelming majority 2/3 - as per both Classical Liberalism and Republicanism.

    Thus - as per the founding principles - this law has been illegitimacy of authority for how long now ? .. has been aboe 33% for a long long time ... know that much.

    But the Dems wait until after the election - can't blame them for that - but support for decriminalization is now 68% - and how many States are there already ..

    What a Joke - and what a clown show - Finally we can throw a bone to essential liberty.

    and Red - an even bigger joke .. "Law and Order" Crowd - a slogan used as subterfuge for nanny-Statism - goofballs for ever on the issue -

    Yeah folks - why not turn 100 million US citizens into Law abiding citizens with the stroke of a pen. Think that might decrease the number of negative interactions between police and citizens ? -- These people are idiots ... Where was Biden under 8 years of Obama on this issue.

    In any case - let us celebrate a win for Lady Liberty
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Making weed legal has is drawbacks. No more diving to Oakland on thanksgiving and getting some weed off the street, now one will have to plan ahead for when the dispensary is open.
    You know, Just an example lol
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    I’m all for it. No good reason for weed to be illegal.

    I’m a disabled vet and I’ve had at least two instances where cannabis helped me greatly when doctors wouldn’t prescribe me anything. Luckily I had some friends visiting from Colorado. Would have been near impossible otherwise.
     
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    **** dispensaries, everyone should grow their own.
     
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    You’ve obviously never compared homegrown to the stuff they have at dispensaries lol
    Not to mention all the hash, oils, edibles....it’s wild
     
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    if the Senate refuses to vote on this, that could lose republicans two seats
     
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    No need to plan a trip, in Southern California anyway.

    A number of places deliver both buds and yummy edibles 24 hours any day. The prices are similar as far as I can tell. (I don't use it because a customer might require testing).
     
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    More people killed by dui's unfortunately.
     
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    If we legalize it we need to get people out that are in jail for crimes like smoking it or small distribution potentially.

    I find it funny how the left wants weed legalized and voted for Kamala when she smoked herself and put people in jail for smoking.
     
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    She had to be stoned while she slept her way to the top.
     
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    Not True - Driving on weed is no more risky than regular driving.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe that is part of it.. expunging records and so forth.
     
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    You’re thinking of the First Lady, kamala only slept her way to a commission or two.
     
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    I’ve lived in California all my life and never seen anyone go to prison for smoking weed.
     
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    That dangerous nonsense is exactly why I wont support legalizing marijuana. Because the pro-pot crowd doesn't assume any responsibility for the gravity of what they're asking for. Its a drug, people wouldn't use it recreationally if it didn't f' you up. But does the 'legalize it' movement prominently acknowledged the potential/likely consequences of misuse? No. To them its just another demand made without concession. I'd love to sit around my own home and get high every now and again just like I enjoy going through a few bottles of Sam Adams and catching a nice buzz. Its fun, I get why people want to do it. But I'm not going to side with reckless selfish children who offer me nothing in return. Show me a referendum that legalizes marijuana but then puts enhanced no-contest felony sentences on violations committed while under the influence and I'll vote for it. Otherwise, nope!
     
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    LOL that is incredibly funny coming from you!
     
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    BS. you would make up a reason if you couldn't find something to complain about.

    Beyond that, how many people think drinking makes them drive better? I've heard it many times! And drunks kill more people every day than pot heads do in a year.

    You drink a lot, right? In my experience, all pot haters do as a rule. They are generally alcoholics.
     
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    I see no good reason why it should be criminalized. It's not a hard drug, just use it responsibly. Not while at work and not when you have to drive. I'm all for legalizing it.
     
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    I would support this.

    I would not support any house or senator that voted against it when election time comes.

    10 years ago I felt differently, but with various states doing it anyway, it's pointless to continue the battle. Give in and vote for it, no pork, just 1 simple bill.
     
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    Apparently and lie about listening to Tupac lol
     
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    That's good. I havent done any research on it because weed legalization doesnt affect my life for better or worse but I do hate seeing people jailed for non violent crimes when no one was even in potential danger.
     
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    Now why would I need to "make up a reason" when your post provides a excellent example of the very two points I made. Here let me quote myself so everyone can get on the same page and I'll highlight the core themes so you can see just how superbly you've helped make my case.

    My previous post:
    That dangerous nonsense is exactly why I wont support legalizing marijuana. Because the pro-pot crowd doesn't assume any responsibility for the gravity of what they're asking for. Its a drug, people wouldn't use it recreationally if it didn't f' you up. But does the 'legalize it' movement prominently acknowledged the potential/likely consequences of misuse? No. To them its just another demand made without concession. I'd love to sit around my own home and get high every now and again just like I enjoy going through a few bottles of Sam Adams and catching a nice buzz. Its fun, I get why people want to do it. But I'm not going to side with reckless selfish children who offer me nothing in return. Show me a referendum that legalizes marijuana but then puts enhanced no-contest felony sentences on violations committed while under the influence and I'll vote for it. Otherwise, nope!

    Ok so lets start out with the myth that driving impaired, be it from any substance, makes one a better driver. Its pure nonsense and you demonstrate that by correctly pointing out that some morons do wrongfully believe that driving drunk makes them "drive better". The exact same applies to morons that think driving while high makes them "drive better". So thank you for aiding me in hammering in this fact. No driver under the influence drivers better because, SPOILER ALERT, that's why we call it driving under the influence.

    Secondly lets address the acknowledgement/responsibility part, specifically your lack of acknowledgement/responsibility; ad punctum the 'legalize it' movement's lack of acknowledgement/responsibility. We law & order types have concerns. We know the damage drug abuse causes, we know the damage alcohol abuse causes - the pro-pot crowd is saying 'legalize it' and we're asking 'what assurances do we have that it wont be another public safety crisis'. Now you could have responded in some manner that spoke to that concern, which is 100% justified as the pro-pot movement never discusses the subject, butttttttt no. You thought lobbing some insulting crack about being an alcoholic was the right way to go. So once again, you made my case.
     
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    F- what up ? certainly not your driving in the way alcohol does. Clearly you have never partaken and so you do not know of what you speak - repeating state sponsored propaganda as if it had some bearing on reality.

    We are talking about operating a motor vehicle - and whether this impairs you. Coke, Ritalin and other stimulants "f u up" as you say - but increase your reaction time and motor skills and general awareness

    So not only do you not know pot - you are very unaware of the subject matter of drug related impairment in general.... and 100% you have never read a study or looked at real numbers.

    Then you compare Pot to Alcohol - which is simply not a valid comparison .. and talk about some no-contest felony law that does not relate to anything being discussed.

    Lastly - your rational for voting is really lacking in substance to the point of ridiculous fallacy and self deception.

    So let me get you correct - you want to force your personal beliefs on others through physical violance - aka - heavy hand of the State - on the basis of what ?

    "put enhanced no-contest felony sentences on violations committed while under the influence"

    What justification do you have for the above ? Define "under the influence" - 1 hr after use 2 hours .. 3 days ?

    and what violations - are you now including other actions such as fighting and so on ?
     
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