A possible modern Mashiach ben Ephrayim / Messiah son of Joseph and.....

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    .... a challenge to all eight million Israelis combined with a challenge to all sixteen million Latter day Saints regarding our attempting to assist Moshiach ben Ephrayim with all the weight of the massive role that he will carry.

    A willingness to ACCEPT the Ruach ha Kodesh in the form of a "bird of prey from the east" could divide up the possible negative consequences on the one who will succeed in building at least one if not two or even three temples for the Orthodox Jewish community as well as the Levites.......... I suspect that there may be a way to increase the probability of Moshiach ben Ephrayim, The Cyrus type, NOT being martyred!?

    I feel that Latter day Saints and Jews living in Israel can share the responsibility and the burden of this. For the record...... I personally told HaShem thirty years ago that if G-d wanted to dump the Holy Spirit, the Ruach ha Kodesh on me, in the form of a "bird of prey from the east"..... I would accept it in that form and carry the responsibility that comes along with that role.

    We are going into a time period when a feeble Israeli will be like King David for wisdom, chutzpah, love for others and for their understanding of the Big Picture.

    Zechariah 12:8 "In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them."

    Isaiah 46:11 "Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it."



    If Americans choose the wrong President there will be consequences...





    https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/101747/jewish/Appendix-II.htm





    Moshiach ben Ephrayim could be a modern type of King Cyrus......

     
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    Orthodox Jewish scholar and historian Yair Davidiy associates Mashiach ben Ephrayim with a modern political leader like ancient King Cyrus.



    https://www.britam.org/messiah.html


    Yair Davidiy :
    Yair Davidiy:


    Will President Trump decree rebuilding of Jerusalem Third Temple?



    Rabbis Urge Trump, Putin to Help Rebuild Temple in Jerusalem

     
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    The Temple as i understand was in Jerusalem Israel, but now ruled by Arabs called "Wakff".. why ??
    Last week i saw disturbing videos, the first one showed thousands of Muslim Arabs praying without masks ( stupids !!) & the second was about UAE visitors in that area cursed by Palestinians "Kalbs" .. means dogs.
    Shame on them... only hatred in their Palestinian Jihad way of life.
     
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    The question has been on my mind for more than a year now that perhaps there will be more than one Jerusalem Temple. The complex described in Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight is thought by some to exist several kilometers outside Jerusalem.

    There is some controversy over the actual location of the Holy of Holies of the Temple of King Solomon and an Israeli archaelogist got the theory out there that it was likely near the Gihon Spring, which is well away from either the Al Aqsa Mosque or the Dome of the Rock.

    The third location is the actual Temple Mount area very near to The Dome of the Rock.

    For years now I have wondered about the prediction that ties in Mashiach ben Ephrayim with the historical Danite Judge Samson, even more so perhaps than with ancient Pagan King Cyrus........ actually.... Mashiach ben Ephrayim in my opinion will be a lot like a modern Samson, David, Solomon and Elijah all rolled into one. I strongly suspect that an unusual connection between Mashiach ben Ephrayim with the Patriarch Enoch will really get many Jewish theologians and many Latter day Saint theologians asking some fascinating questions.

    Mashiach ben Ephrayim may also be exceptionally good at diplomacy and may well achieve results between Israelis and Palestinians that will astonish the world......... not to mention Israelis and Palestinians.

    The Personality of Mashiach
    By J. Immanuel Schochet



    A possible Mashiach ben Ephrayim does seem to be on the scene and already amazing results have been achieved. Matters will go to a whole new level though when the world's Jewish community become inspired to cooperate with the world's Islamic community on a project that sure seems to fit with Isaiah chapter thirty five ... .but.... an interesting detail is added that so fits with the possible economic crisis that this COVID 19 virus does seem to be pushing the whole world in the direction of.

    After the Abraham Peace Accord turn deserts green...


    Book 005, Number 2208:


    Isaiah chapter thirty five:
    https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/ot/isa/35?lang=eng
     
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    I would really like to get your take on this similar discussion that I began around seven am this morning but it already has over twenty seven thousand hits.

    I put the opening post on about eight or ten MeWe groups and it has gone viral.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...nald-j-trump-as-moshiach-ben-ephrayim.587238/
    Should Israel crown Donald J. Trump as Moshiach ben Ephrayim?


    This is actually a rather serious option because the history of WWII proves that a constitutional monarchy comes in really handy during a time of extreme crisis.

    COVID 19 has certainly put the world economy into a pretty serious economic crisis.

    Orthodox Jewish scholar and historian Mr. Yair Davidiy explains the logic for this possibility:

    https://britam.org/messiah.html

    Yair Davidiy:
     
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    Mr. Norman Willis adds a lot to this topic.........
    I am not sure if he is correct on all of the major points that he makes or not ........
    but he adds many interesting details to the idea of a soon coming "Moshiach ben Yosef / Ephrayim."



    About Mashiach ben Yosef
     
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    President Donald J. Trump moving the USA embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem puts a whole new spin on the topic of Moshiach ben Ephrayim.

    If and when President Donald J. Trump and / or some other leaders like "Cyrus" manage to assist the Jewish people to construct at least one..... if not even several Jewish temples in Israel THEN.....
    they will look at this topic in a whole new light.

    A near death experiencer from Uganda explained how this will work. This will be a whole new level of fulfillment of Isaiah chapter forty five.


    Should Israel crown Donald J. Trump as Moshiach ben Ephrayim?


    https://britam.org/messiah.html


     
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    I am willing to audition for the role of a Messianic Gentile / MessiAntik Jewish latter day Elijah.....
    (free of charge to the nation of Israel).....
    and I would suggest that I have several possible Moshiach ben Ephrayim candidates in mind....

    near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava....

    near death experiencer Dr. Kevin Zadai

    near death experiencer Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. d.

    President Donald J. Trump... (but I think that President Trump needs to be in the USA most of the time so the title of Christian Political Cyrus as explained by near death experiencer Mr. Eporu Ronald Alfred would be a better title for him)......

    Evangelist John Ramirez who got out of his car one day and defended somebody dressed Jewish from somebody who was attacking the Jewish guy.....

    Mordecai Spiro who is Breslovian Chassidic Jewish and lives in Israel at this time.....



     
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    Jews and Christians believe that the Messiah will come after the build of the 3rd temple in Jerusalem.
    Some white donkey is involved...
    Am i right ?
     
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    A white donkey........???????

    Didn't Kim Clement predict that Messiah son of David would somehow clean up the Democratic Party of America........
    after He humbles her thoroughly??????????
     
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    Here is a way that President Donald J. Trump with a second title of Israel's "Cyrus" or Israel's "Moshiach ben Ephrayim" could finance the Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight Temple Complex.


    One of the many advantages of Israel crowning President Donald J. Trump as their "Cyrus" or their "Moshiach ben Ephrayim" would be that he could then move to pay off the national debts of The United States of America and Israel.......
    and that would just be the opening gambit for him....

    The national debts of The United States of America and Israel are largely practical jokes being played on a terribly under informed population.

    Economist Milton Friedman set the stage for what I believe would be President Trump's next move if he was officially also regarded as their "Cyrus" or their "Moshiach ben Ephrayim" by Israel.


    Re: Proposal for the Creation of a "Donald J. Trump Volunteerism Hour" and / or "Donald J. Trump Volunteerism Dollar."

    Dear Mr. President:

    I myself attempt to do one thousand hours annually as a volunteer writer all over the internet troubleshooting serious problems. I taught English as a Second Language in Quito, Ecuador in 2001 and 2002 and some of what I write has my former students at La Escula del Futuro and Universidad Technologica de Israel de Quito in mind as I write but YOU SIR ARE IN MY OPINION THE NUMBER ONE VOLUNTEER ON THIS EARTH at this critical time in history!!!!!!!!!

    Last Saturday my wife had me listening to Prophet Robin Bullock and he predicted NEW MONEY because the old money had "cobwebs on it!"

    Dr. Cindy Jacobs predicted that the time was coming when the USA dollar and the Canadian dollar would go to par value.

    .... "The Constitution prohibits individual states from printing and issuing paper money as legal tender, but they are allowed to use coins as currency, said Gatch. Individual communities, however, are able to create their own currencies -- including paper notes. Anyone can do it -- as long as the money is easily distinguishable from U.S. dollars and values are tied to the U.S. dollar so that income remains taxable." (Blake Ellis, CNN Money, Local Currencies in the USA We Don't Trust, January 27, 2012).

    Dr. Kevin Zadai, Prayer Secrets Level 1, Warrior Notes School of Ministry, lesson 4 :
    ... "Jesus said that this unbelieving world is not going to accept you, but He said, “Do not fear, for I have overcome the world.” What is it that is bothering you today? You might not think that you have access to the Father, but it has been provided to you. You might think that you cannot just go to the Father and ask Him for something. The first thing you should ask the Father is to open your eyes. Your relationship with God is going to drive out fear. You have to grasp that God is not limiting you. He has never limited you. The Holy Spirit came on the Day of Pentecost and took the ceiling off. You can go as high and as far as you want.

    If you would believe, God would give you the ability to completely pay off our national debt. God has a way of paying off our debt in our country. There is a way to do it. God knows that secret. But instead of focusing on our country, what about focusing on your bills? What does the Holy Spirit want to tell you by pulling back a veil that will cause you to be debt-free within the year? That will happen if you believe. The Holy Spirit has so much more for you, but you have limited Him. Because you have limited Him, He can’t speak to you. Because of that, people that are prophetic can’t come to you and confirm what God has said because you won’t hear it.

    You can trust God. Relationships that you are having trouble with can be resolved tomorrow morning. If you accept what God is saying, the Spirit of God will enforce a blessing in your life to the point where you will see your family members and friends start to respond. " (Dr. Kevin Zadai, Prayer Secrets Level 1, Warrior Notes School of Ministry, lesson 4 )

    This message will be going out to dozens of your support groups all over the internet soon and it is important to know that I believe that this must be accomplished from the nation of Israel for many reasons. More information on this can be found at:

    "After the Abraham Peace Accord turn deserts green..."
    on politicalforum .com by DennisTate.

    God bless you and keep you Sir!

    Shalom from Nova Scotia, Canada.

    Dennis Tate

    p. s. Other than for the aspects of this that will be done from the nation of Israel much of this can be accomplished from the two cities of Edmonton and Calgary Alberta..... and Red Deer, Alberta that is pretty much in the middle between these two cities. Sir.... please consider you and Mr. Michael J. Lindell producing a semi-reality science fiction film series set in the time of Premier Bible Bill Aberhart?


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...h-ben-ephrayim.587238/page-13#post-1073651890


    Messiah or Moshiach means "anointed king" and a modern Moshiach ben Ephrayim and / or the Cyrus type would technically both be anointed kings of Israel.... much as ancient Gentile King Cyrus was recognized as a genuine Moshiach by Jewish scholars and mystics.
     
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    I have an extremely rude question to ask of near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava and / or near death experiencer Dr. Kevin Zadai.........

    HOW FAR WOULD EACH OF YOU GO TO ATTEMPT TO SAVE THE LIFE OF PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP WHO COULD WELL BE THE REAL MOSHIACH BEN EPHRAYIM?

    According to Orthodox Jewish scholar and historian Mr. Yair Davidiy the latter day Cyrus..... could be the same person as Moshiach ben Ephrayim.

    Please imagine that you are doing a reality film series that is donated to President Trump's son Mr. Barron Trump.......
    who is rumoured to be a brilliant young man.......

    and obviously the only way to decrease the intensity of the attacks on President Donald J. Trump might be to take some of the heat over to yourself??????

    If you are willing ... .that can be arranged.......?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...f-elijah-needed.499830/page-7#post-1073707810




     
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