Trump still saying - today! - that "cases will go down rapidly."

Is our president utterly insane? I'm starting to think that he is; with his denial about losing the election, and now, this.

While he was trying to minimize Covid-19 for electoral purpose, it was wrong to do so, but understandable given his strategy.

But the election is over, today cases reached 170,000 daily, which is double of what we had 10 days ago, the curve is getting to be almost vertical, and this moron is still trying to minimize it? WTF???

 

Neither Trump nor the NFL are known for their intellectual prowess. Additionally, Trump has long been known to be most dishonest.

He is as invested in scamdemic nearly as deeply as those who brought it. His analytical skills are not sufficient to allow him to understand that by way of the bogus PCR tests the number of "cases" are manipulated at will by the perpetrators. He is not honest enough to admit that the IFR for the virus is about the same as that for flu, so that well over 99% of those infected survive just fine.

 

We're going to start distributing 30 million doses of vaccines per month in a couple of weeks, and treatments have been approved for public distribution.

That would make cases drop significantly, and more importantly, deaths.

Trump did a great job with Warp Speed in getting a vaccine approved in 10 months, for those who want a vaccine or are forced to take it.

 

So you think that by propagating a lie will make it come true? This vaccine was not included in Warp Speed and was funded by the German government

 

Well there is THAT! LOL!

 

Trump [Trump lies and deceptions admitted to on tape!] is directly responsible for 100,000 to 200,000 unnecessary American deaths.

He should be tried and executed as a mass murderer. But he is the greatest mass murderer in US history! I'll give him that.

PS. The general population will be not receiving vaccinations until the 2nd or 3rd quarter of 2021. Life will not be returning to normal until late summer or Thanksgiving NEXT YEAR.

 

Yeah. Couldn't be that America is one of the most obese countries in the world with high occurrences of heart disease, high-blood pressure and diabetes. Couldn't be that most of the deaths have been unhealthy people over 80 who would have died of "something" in 2020. Also couldn't be that we counted deaths from heart attacks, strokes, Alzheimer's and even motor cycle accidents as "Covid death", whereas other countries have been a lot more strict over what exactly gets classified as "death by Covid".

Nah. Couldn't be any of those variables. Trump must be a murderer. LOL

 

Hmmmm. Not receiving cash upfront does not equate with not being included in Warp Speed. You’ve been hoodwinked....again. Even Phizer had to walk back their claim of being uninvolved in Warp Speed.

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020...-produce-millions-doses-covid-19-vaccine.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/live/2020/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine.amp.html

Pull quotes from NYT.

 

Trump needs to start bringing the next administration up to speed on any military involvement in distributing the vaccine - logistics and manpower
placement. Trump is now guilty of with-holding that information and that may cause additional deaths. The guy is just a pure dick-head.

 

It was a pre-order. They received no funding from the US government for development and will not receive any money to cover development costs. So explain why Trump is to be congratulated for placing an order in just the same way that many other countries also did? Did those other countries have a "warp speed" programme?

 

Trump is the sitting President until January 19th. He isn't "guilty" of anything, regardless of opinion. The electoral vote is December 14th, which will allow plenty of transition time, if required.

 

Warp speed is a lot more than just funding. It changes the process for approval, and fast tracks production by having the government purchase the vaccine and the company to produce the vaccine before it is even fully approved. This means the government absorbs the risk so that the vaccine can be given to people the very moment it is approved.

 

I’m not interested in congratulating anyone. I’m just interested in truth. LOL

Do you have any experience in developing new products or knowledge of how advance purchase agreements effect risks to the developer? Apparently not. The Warp Speed initiative involves much more than upfront cash. You would think people would understand that by now....clearly the lie is that it was not included in the initiative. Will you keep propagating that lie, or see that justice is done by acknowledging the error in the claims the vaccine is not involved in Warp Speed? Or will you just divert to who gets credit/congratulated and consider a new PF handle?

 

The drug is being manufactured in Belgium and Germany. Approval is bring carried out in Europe. Why should Trump or Boris Johnson or any politician other than the German government be congratulated?

 

Perhaps you should direct your anger at the poster who wants to congratulate Trump, the same poster who has no interest in the vaccine other than praising Trump

 

See the pfizer press release in July:

https://investors.pfizer.com/invest...nuwQUSvwMcFyvv6NUJ_ixOFAbv2S3Z_Avy92U_-bqoffw

“Expanding Operation Warp Speed’s diverse portfolio by adding a vaccine from Pfizer and BioNTech increases the odds that we will have a safe, effective vaccine as soon as the end of this year,” said HHS Secretary Alex Azar. “Depending on success in clinical trials, today’s agreement will enable the delivery of approximately 100 million doses of this vaccine to the American people.”

 

I have no anger. Just interest in facts. You can praise or criticize who you want. But you can’t make up your own facts. I am weary of all the misinformation surrounding C19 and will continue correcting such, starting with those most willing to dictate behaviors to others and working my way down to non authoritarians as time permits.

Just out of curiosity, what’s the value in making things up to combat someone who praises Trump? I don’t see how that strengthens your position after years of complaining about Trump’s dishonesty.

 

All the major countries in the world placed guaranteed pre-ordered. There is nothing new here. Straight from a link above: ." In fact, international health organizations have long used such market guarantees to encourage for-profit manufacturers to supply vaccines to the developing world."

 

I don't see any poster congratulating Trump on the vaccine... But since the idea that Trump had any positive impact upsets you so much! Congrats Trump! It's like you made the vaccine yourself! Best president ever!

 

I'm correcting the lie that a new initiative has been installed by the Trump government. There is nothing new here as explained in your link, the extract being ". In fact, international health organizations have long used such market guarantees to encourage for-profit manufacturers to supply vaccines to the developing world." Other than placing a pre-order, the development of this drug does not fall under the remit of operation warp speed.

But anyway, I am sceptical about this vaccine. When results were first announced the reported shelf life when not at -70C was one day. This soon was increased to 2 days after concerns were raised and now they state it's 5 days. What was the storage temperature when the vaccine was administered during the trials? What has changed to lengthen the shelf life at higher temperatures

 

I’ll reiterate. Warp Speed is more than up front cash. The claim the vaccine doesn’t benefit from or wasn’t included in Warp Speed is patently false. Pre-orders are a big deal in big business.

I haven’t looked into original claims on temperature and shelf life compared to current. If I was the developer I would start with worst case assumptions and work from there. Being too optimistic at the beginning and then admitting it’s harder to distribute than originally claimed hurts credibility of the company and gives the appearance of playing the markets for financial gain.

 

Nothing is more certain at this point than Trump's inability to confront reality.

 

These links refer to different storage times:
TWO DAYS:
"In fact, Pfizer has said its jab can be stored refrigerated temps for no more than 48 hours"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...ays-believes-pandemic-control-flu-season.html

ONE DAY:
"Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, raised concerns about the feasibility of Pfizer's storage requirements -- the vaccine can exist in a regular refrigerator for only about 24 hours."
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/pfizer-win-covid-vaccine-race-distributing-matter/story?id=72862724

FIVE DAYS
Then we have 5 days:
"But shots will spoil in around five days at normal refrigeration temperatures of slightly above freezing. BioNTech CEO Ugur Sahin told Reuters the companies are analyzing if they can extend that for two week"
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/pfizer-win-covid-vaccine-race-distributing-matter/story?id=72862724

 

Interesting. The common theme seems to be third parties making claims, not actual data from Pfizer. Your second and third link are identical so I can’t see who actually made the five day claim. Looks to me like uninformed journalists and CDC folks shooting their mouths off without all the information. Just what it looks like to me. Can’t find anything official from Pfizer but I’ll keep looking.

 

The third link should have been https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...ARAB&usg=AOvVaw0SuMaK9A2e5QEpcnXAhZEd&ampcf=1