Biden Aide Signals Push For Greater Censorship On The Internet

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  1. joesnagg

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    "Useful Idiots" aren't "True Believers", why they're the first directed to the "showers". The Lefts' just purging out the ones that wised up.
     
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    If Biden's coup de tat succeed there will be big changes and freedom of speech will be one of the first to go... We knew this, tis why I have supported Trump.... please tell me you people are not realising this for the first time?
     
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    You mean to tell me some useful idiots who still believe are purging the ex-useful idiots who wanted to have a different opinion, but found themselves "shushed, shamed, and sometimes fired"?

    Weird how that has worked in exactly the same pattern over and over and over throughout world history, isn't it?
     
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    What trump and his ilk do is not protected by the 1st Amendment. By the same logic, you cannot yell "Fire! Fire!! Fire!!! Run for your life!!!!" when there is no fire in a crowded theater.

    This is 10th grade civics stuff. You might want to review your high school government classes.

    Never mind that Twitter et al are not government entities.
     
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    The liberals would just boycott Twitter if they had a beef. You all want to make a law and imposes authoritarian solutions so you can force others to endure your brain-dead nonsense, treasonous activities. .
     
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    Some people on the left are realizing for the first time. I think the first whistle-blower over the Cancel Culture movement was Bret Weinstein. He and his wife were forced to resign from tenured college professorships when the Neo-Marxists (mostly useful idiots) took over their college and the college administrator was too cowardly to stand up for free thought and ideas. He took the side of the insane students and the Weinstein's quit (and sued the college).

    I enjoy listening to Weinstein, even though he still considers himself a "progressive" (not sure to use small "p" or capital "P"). He is first and foremost an American patriot (perhaps not the same as a right-wing thinks "P"atriot). But his main observation is that this country will collapse in no time if the Far Left faction succeeds in silencing dissenters.

    It was amusing to hear Weinstein say, "You know I never talked to any conservatives before recently... :eek: ...but I've found that most of them actually have valid reasoning for being conservative." Of course, there are obvious opinion differences on "solutions" but much agreement on basic American values, like free speech.

    So there you go. Each "side" has a separate media bubble which divides and destroys trust and has split the country in half. Americans stopped talking to each other thinking the other side is the enemy. For the most part, the media has been bribed and handsomely rewarded by The Deep State to rip us in two, while an almost unbeatable authoritarian/totalitarian power structure has been carefully built brick by brick over the decades.

    Joke's on us....we elected them because usually we got no choice but one RINO and one DINO to vote for...which the system had already mutually agreed that either would be "okay" to be the winner for at least four years.

    I remember feeling really oppressed at the thought that 2016 would come down to a "dynasty" team: Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush. That's probably who the establishment thought would be their pre-approved duo. Don't know how Trump managed to slip in there and win, but at least that shows we, the people, may still have a slim chance to take back control over our government instead of the other way around.
     
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    I disagree with you, but I'll defend to the death your right to state that opinion. :)

    Many still slumber deep.
     
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    I am a member of the ACLU.

    Social media have been weaponised. The idea behind law is to strike a balance between competing rights and interests. I'd be the first to admit striking that balance will be a real challenge. But when you have things like Right wing fruitcakes helping Russia damage the country, that is a serious problem.

    "In the week that followed Donald Trump’s election, Russia used its fake accounts on social media to organize a rally in New York City supporting the president-elect—and another rally in New York decrying him. Hackers continued attempting to break into state voting systems; trolls continued to launch social-media campaigns intended to spark racial conflict. Through subsidiaries, the Russian government continued to funnel cash to viral-video channels with names like In the Now and ICYMI, which build audiences with ephemera (“Man Licks Store Shelves in Online Post”), then hit unsuspecting readers with arguments about Syria and the CIA. "

    In case you hadn't noticed, we have racial conflict now.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/06/putin-american-democracy/610570/

    https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-115shrg25362/html/CHRG-115shrg25362.htm
    https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CPRT-115SPRT28110/html/CPRT-115SPRT28110.htm
     
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  9. Horhey

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    This is about "misinformation" ie content they don't like. Twitter and Facebook are monopolies and they're censoring at the behest of the State. You're embracing far-right or even fascistic ideas. All for your precious Democratic party which works for the corporate-financial elite, not you.
     
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    "Slander" and "incitement of violence" are matters of opinion. One person's slander is another's truth. Yelling fire in a crowded theater, I believe, is on the books as a crime, yesterday and today.

    We have had racial conflict ever since Obama jumped on the Ferguson dilemma and damned the police, without waiting for the evidence, and then told blacks that the deck was stacked against them and they couldn't succeed in this country, no matter what they do, which was a lie.
     
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    Even when he WAS (IS?) President they should make him do that

    Twitter, Facebook, etc are BUSINESSES, they have to be free to make whatever rules they feel will enable them to MAKE THE MOST MONEY, which is what they HAVE to do as fiduciaries of their stockholders

    I truly can't understand how conservatives, those staunch defenders of Free Market Capitalism and the Profit Motive seem unable to understand this, but I think it might be as is everything else with them. The Agenda, the conservative ideology overrides even its own underpinnings as far as they are concerned. If it puts Facebook out of business to be made to run insane rants based on lies so be it.

    Was I Zuckerberg I would just say **** it and prohibit all political content whatsoever. He made just as much money when people were showing pictures of their lunch and it didn't have him at Congressional Hearings at all.
     
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    Obama didn't fail.
    ACA still exists in most parts as law of land.
    The economy, per DJIA stocks nearly tripled from bottom to top during his terms. And continued 3 yrs beyond his term.
    He was a pretty successful president. Even though I was disgusted with his ties to Wall Street in his admin.
     
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    What target?
    What censorship?
    The OP failed to make that distinction. But you're responding as if you figured it out. So what is it?
     
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    There is no censorship of RW.
     
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    LOL Funny.
     
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    I would say to just use Gab but the powers to be have done everything including preventing Gab from creating apps on your phone. Twitter and other tech powers are keeping control and using that power to maintain their monopolies. Its sick.
     
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    What you mean to say is that there is no censorship, just the removal and banning for inappropriate posts.
     
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    What "freedoms" do you expect to lose?
     
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    That's the fear. The global technocrats have formed powerful partnerships with government elites and may end up being gifted with unshatterable monopoly power. It "appears" that entrepreneurs can still start competing large-scale social platforms, but The State could make sure that none succeed. Time will tell. There may be nowhere to run in a few years where people can just speak.
     
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    Do you complain about censorship on PF? You still post here.
    Do you post or have access to Twitter, FB?

    Each of those businesses have rules to follow. They make most of their money by advertising. Companies advertise because they like the exposure.
    If people break the rules of the business, they need to enforce those rules or those advertisers will put their money elsewhere. It's call capitalism. The very thing RW promote incessantly albeit, hypocritically.
     
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    So funny, you can't prove only RW has been censored. You think people can break the rules of a site they agreed to follow before they even made a single post?
     
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    inappropriate is the operative word.
    Private businesses with rules that everyone agrees to before signing up is not censorship. That's breaking the rules one agreed to. And knew in advance of the results.

    Why are you not aware of this? Have you ever had a post deleted on PF?

    When you are not allowed to start your own business and create your own rules, then you have a legit argument.
     
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    No I don't complain about PF. PF survives on donations so those who donate can stop donating if the censorship went wild.

    It's different with big tech who partner with other big tech companies and own nearly all the market. I wouldn't care if Twitter completely banned every conservative from their platform if their tech brother Google didn't do everything to keep Gab from competing in the App market.

    I don't use Facebook. I enjoy my privacy. I just don't like these tech giants trying to influence people. Anytime they silence something, I just get more motivated to see what it is. They really create the opposite effect when they do that. Still, there are people who trust these institutions to do their thinking for them and let them put them in these bubbles.
     
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