Why is Trump sabotaging the transition?

So you're not an American then or you just have no regard for our founding document (or both)? Bush also felt the same way about that gdamn piece of paper (that other document that created our government consistent with the Declaration).

And you are an expert on what exactly, "who cares"?

 

Every serious subject I post about or discuss in the real world I've conducted a great deal of research on.

 

What exactly did you research about the founders and American ideology? How to say "who cares" when confronted by documented FACTS that refute your "well researched" claims? That's what you call serious?

 

Just about everything I've been able to find over the last 35 years give or take. The original U.S. Constitution was brilliantly done in so many ways, but that doesn't make it brilliant for the problems of today.

 

Well, then

Why not PROVE that the ONLY purpose of the Government is to wage war and explore space.....I'll wait for the documents


I am so glad you don't ever drive on federal highways or use federal buildings , and refuse to eat safety inspected food etc.,etc., LOL!!!

 

That is my philosophical view of the U.S. federal government.

 

Yet you believe this government was created for the purpose of waging war despite the fact that our founding document contradicts you. You need to go back and start with the basics, the Declaration of Independence, it seems you haven't even read it.

 

This whole thing has gone so far down the rabbit hole. It's no longer charming or funny.

Giuliani did a 90 minute presser where he presented one affidavit, and went on about how Hugo Chavez & Michael Moore are conspiring in Oprah's basement where they are keep kids as sex slaves. (Oh, wait, part of that is Qanon stuff.)

He even did a scene from My Cousin Vinny, claiming it was his favorite war movie.

The man is a full blown loon.

 

Why did Gore do the same thing to Bush in 2000?

 

In what ways, specifically, are these two situations analogous?

 

Gore wasted until Dec 13th just challenging votes in a few counties in Florida. Stop throwing hissy fits, and let the election process play out

 

1) Why would I believe that?
2) Why would I care?
3) That was then.
4) This is now.
5) We live in the "now".

 

I asked a question, which is not anything like a hissy fit.

Gore lost by 500 votes in one state. Buchanan had way more (by a huge margin,) of votes then he was expecting and Gore got a lot less than he was expecting. There was an issue with the way the ballot rested. An enormous conversation ensued about if people intended to vote Gore, but picked Buchanan in error.

Trump is losing by thousands, in some cases, over 100,000 votes, in several states.

Which of these seems like a reasonable recount request?

 

So you were a fan of all presidents since forever, who have started a war? Yet, you support Trump, who started no wars.

Hmmmm.

 

The hissy fit comment was not directed at you, just the people in general, who resist any challenge to the vote.

The Florida recount highlighted the problems with their voting system, which resulted in major changes being made. Florida restored the state voters faith in the voting process and now easily reports the results in a timely manner.

The current recounts are still finding thousands of ballots that were never counted. This shows serious problems. People are swearing under oath that these Dominion voting machines are miscounting and artificially changing votes. So just let all of this all play out. If Democrats interfere and prevent proper investigations into these claims, then a lot of people will distrust our voting system.

 

I've never said I was against the recounts.

Unlike some, I'm actually paying attention to the governors, the Secretaries of State, the election officials; all of whom say their election was clean.

Not counting some ballots is normal. This is why states never know their totals on election night. Never. It always takes days and days. Trump has been trashing the election process for months; now, for some; it was a foregone conclusion.

Finding votes happens. They would have been found through the normal course of validating the results.

Most of the votes they found that were "missing," were in districts that are very heavily republican. You should be sure that they had a heavy republican delegation in those areas. So, was it republicans hiding republican votes? Why would they do that?

My guess - not fraud; merely human error that would have been found before the totals were validated.

 

Narcissism.
Poor loser.

 

Why settle with guessing? Just let the process complete and then we will know whether these voting machines worked properly, and that ballots were not printed off with printer ink filling in perfect little circles for just Biden.

 

Dirty Donald is trying to get revenge for his impeachment.

 

More than that - Trump asserted then that, since he was the newly elected president, he had the prerogative to act as if he possessed immediately the full suite of presidential powers. In his mind his Admin. had begun, even months before the inauguration.

 

He needs to be impeached, again (he can be impeached even when he is out of office)

 

Because you posted it, TODAY:

Are you saying you don't believe what you posted today? If not, why did you post it? Are you that confused?

Last I checked the Declaration of Independence is still the document that founded this country, that didn't change. And it still says that governments are instituted to SECURE RIGHTS, it doesn't say they're instituted to wage war. The text and meaning hasn't changed today. And you claim you do research? I'm sorry it's impossible to discuss an issue with someone who posts contradictory garbage. You make no sense.

 

Have you needed this much scrutiny for every election, just the ones where republicans lose, or only the election that Trump lost?

By all means; let it play out. He's merely on a cash grab / revenge filled temper tantrum. By all means, though, let's watch this play out.

It's a sad legacy he's leaving behind, but, only his kids have to live with it.

 

I fear that the conception each of you, as well as President-elect Biden, have of the majority, Republican caucus in our Senate is dated. Demographics have-- for decades, now-- given that Party two, foreseeable choices: adapt themselves to represent more of those people, or; use whatever means at their disposal to subvert democracy, in order to stay in power, while only enjoying the support of a minority of the electorate. While talking a good bit about alternative #1, they have, in action, opted to pursue the 2nd course.

Their well-documented, long-established battle plan has focused on: 1)gerrymandering, so that a minority of voters, in certain states, gets majority representation in those state governments, as well as sends a greater share of that state's Representatives to the U.S. Congress; 2) voter repression, to hold down turnout of those who are predominantly not their voters, identified by their location/race, by making it harder for them to register, more inconvenient to vote, & easier to have both those voter registrations, & those votes, thrown out, and; 3) stacking the courts to, among other things, give the Party an ace in the hole for disputes over national issues, as well as for resolving disagreements over the legitimacy, practice, & domain of various governmental powers and procedures.

This change in character has, in part, just been a gradual evolution. However, the process has accelerated at a malignant rate, in recent times, due to the potential consequences of this, long-predicted, shift in demographics having become alarmingly more proximate; think of the election of President Obama as analogous to-- for a vibrant-feeling, late middle-aged person-- experiencing a heart attack or other, major health scare.

This has led to a sense of DESPERATION amongst many forward-looking, Republican politicians, most notably Mitch McConnell. I know you two are well-aware of current politics, so I won't go into a long recitation of the evidence pointing to my conclusion, only then to have to re-argue each past action, for which you, perhaps, have a different interpretation.

Instead, I only hope to call your attention, briefly, to this moment. An infectious illness, which poses a greater threat to the lives & health of Americans than anything in a century (since the last pandemic), rages, out of control. This has led to the secondary, but extremely serious, situation of a sudden, remarkable rise in unemployment, putting a substantial number of people in economic jeopardy, with the prediction that, in lieu of some remedial government action, a massive number of home-evictions will result. Yet, in the Senate, McConnell has, after the initial aid package in the Spring, been unwilling to consider any other measures to give citizens, businesses, or state & local governments, a helping hand in dealing with this.

Instead, his laser-focus has been on putting more of his kind of judges into the federal Judiciary. Which is what, today, occasions this reply since, as a last act, before taking Thanksgiving recess, the Senate agenda was to approve a 33 year-old judge, who has only ever tried 2 cases, and who the American Bar Association rates as unqualified, to a lifetime appointment as a federal judge.
Please see my link, below, to the local paper's report, as well as a brief excerpt from the article:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tampabay.com/news/breaking-news/2020/11/18/senate-confirms-trumps-youngest-federal-judge-to-serve-in-tampa/?outputType=amp

"Mizelle, 33, would be among the youngest federal judges in the nation. She has been an attorney for eight years. In her career, she has handled two trials; both occurred when she was a legal intern, before she had graduated from law school."


While I hope that I am wrong, & that Biden is able to deal successfully with the Republican Senate as he remembers it to be, I would feel MUCH better about things, if both Georgia's runoff Senate seats were to go to the Democrats, who have not (to this point) shown the off-the-scale degree of obstructionism as is, & has, been plainly visible from McConnell's caucus.

 

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Well, then

Why not PROVE that the ONLY purpose of the Government is to wage war and explore space.....I'll wait for the documents





I am so glad you don't ever drive on federal highways or use federal buildings , and refuse to eat safety inspected food etc.,etc., LOL!!!

What an awful philosophy...so UN-American