Corona Virus Update

Forget Trump and politics. The better question is why people who can clearly see that ignoring protocols results in 135,000 new cases a day, still think it's a good idea.

I suspect it's just stubborn pride at this point. Don't want to be proven wrong.

 

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In my country. I'm in the East.

 

We may soon be as well.

 

For what it's worth, You have a very valid point. Why the irresponsible behavior when folks should know better by now. This is no longer new. , and the info is available. I too think it is just being stubborn , and I might add , immature. Maybe they are trying to prove something.......but to whom and what??

It is the population that needs to face reality and do what has to be done. .....and we all know what this is. This is not a time to be rebellious. Too many lives are at stake. Or are folks that selfish , childish and inconsiderate??

We all have rules that we live by. That is what makes a society work. The rules for a pandemic have been described thoroughly.

 

Our grand parents and great-great grandparents gave up a lot to get us through WWII. Everyone sacraficed, and it was considered patriotic to do so.

We need to wear masks at Walmart. It's the patriotic thing to do.

Trump worshipers, like Trump himself, are not patriots.

 

The problem is that in our lifetimes and our democracies, we've never had endure the limitations which go martial law or wars. We've become thoroughly spoiled by the profound safety and peace of the First World. We no longer think in terms of 'what must we do to survive?', we think in terms of 'why should I have to worry about surviving?'. It's reached a point where the very idea that our safety and peace could be threatened is outside the limits of our lived experience AND our imagination.

The only way such a mind can process the request for a united 'war effort' is that it's some kind of sinister move from within. They can't actually accept the existence of an external common 'enemy'. The don't believe it's possible. If they believe in external common enemies, it means everything they hold to be true about their safety and peace, crumbles into dust.

 

Good points. Not sure many evaluate all this in any depth of thought . Things Seem To have become rather superficial

Wonder if things will change abit now that so many are having to rely on food lines........ be without work, losing their homes. etc. That could put forks in survival mode . The attitude of entitlement might be replaced with some harsh reality. This pandemic is exposing a lot about the culture itself. The current leadership.......born into wealth.......has no appreciation for what folks are going through eitehr.

 

Evaluation seems to me to be the least we should be doing. If only to ensure we ourselves are not listening to the wrong inner voices.

Meantime, doubtful that it'll prompt serious reflection. They just blame the food lines etc on the sinister internal enemy. The actual enemy is perceived as a beat up or a fabrication, which of course allows the person to continue pretending it's not real. There's A LOT of fear behind that attitude. Not just fear of the actual enemy, but fear of losing the sense of security they've taken as a fixed reality.

 

South Dakota has a population of 824,000 people and they have had 819 deaths from Covid. That is 0.1% of the State.
The State of Washington has a population of 7.6 million and has had 2738 deaths from Covid. That is 0.036% of the State.

So the "strategy" in South Dakota is killing almost 3 times more people than the strategy in Washington, per capita.

If Washington was using the South Dakota model of do nothing, they would likely have more like 7600 deaths instead of 2700.

 

Oh yes, and South Dakota is just now into full crisis mode. Their arrogance and ignorance is now going to kill a hell of a lot of people.

Hospitals are trying to bypass the do-nothing message from the Governor as they beg for help.

Remember also that for every death, there are some number of people who will have permanent health damage from Covid. And here is something no one has factored in yet:

How much are all of these hospitals bills? How much is does it cost to recover from Covid? When people get their bills they may wish they died.

 

Are South Dakotans especially unhealthy, generally speaking? That's a concerning statistic.

 

Of course they are. It's a red State. So for starters you can expect high rates of obesity.

 

See, I didn't even have to look

The obesity epidemic in South Dakota: how big is the problem?
Kristin Biskeborn 1, Matthew Christenson, Linda Ahrendt
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• PMID: 21721186

Abstract


Obesity is an increasing problem both in the United States and South Dakota. Currently, 30.3 percent of South Dakota adults self-report being obese, which is higher than the national prevalence and also increasing at a faster rate than other states. The obesity rate for South Dakota 2- to 5-year-olds from limited-income households is 16.4 percent and above the national prevalence. Obesity prevalence among students Kindergarten through grade 12 was 16.0 percent for the 2009-2010 school year, not higher than national data.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21721186/

 

a correlation between obesity and republicanism??? Hmm. Interesting.

 

Oh yes! A map of States with the highest rates of obesity tracks well with with a map of red States.

They are costing the rest of us money paying for their poor health habits. So after they get their SS check, get their meds for heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes, process their Medicare paperwork for their doctors visits, and buy their beer, potato chips and hot dogs, they attend a trump rally to complain about the corrupt system run by liberals and the deep state.

 

Why do you think that is the case?? Theorize a l you want

 

Ignorance, arrogance, slovenliness, and laziness.

In the same sense, you have to be intellectually sloppy and lazy to buy into trump's crap. It all paints a picture.

 

undereducated?? Would belief systems contribute too?? Beliefs can play a big role in a person's lifestyle.

 

I don't know and frankly I am far past caring. Legalize secession and separate from the red states before they're the death of all of us. When the health care bill for red state obesity comes home to roost, the cost of health care will get much worse. They will cost us all a fortune!

Hell, the red state covid bill is going to be a nightmare. Hospitals throughout the red states are on the verge of being overwhelmed. And of course they expect Blue States to help bail them out now. A friend of mine in Washington [Blue] was complaining about patients from Idaho [red] overflow filling beds needed by people in Washington.

 

It is a frustrating set of circumstances..... and at the risk of being pessimistic. er realistic ....... it might get a lot worse before it gets better. It is very concerning.....

and the crazy thing is that it could have been in much better control by now........ maybe with a bit of a surge.......at this time of year. but not as bad as it is currently. This is a national embarrassment.. as is the obstruction to the transition of power.

 

Massive fatties? Well yeah, that'll do it. You'd think living in such an outdoorsy and rustic State, they'd be wiry bustards. Guess not.

Not sure what politics has to do with it, meantime. Plenty of massive fatties vote Left. After all, 90% of African Americans vote Left, and they have the highest rates of obesity in America. Bummer, Dude.

 

So you're saying that African Americans are ignorant, arrogant, slovenly, and lazy?

 

Yeah and you won't find any fat folks in New York City or Los Angeles.

 

No, I didn't specify anything about color or ethnicity. And there aren't a lot of African Americans in Ohio [Adult obesity rate of 35%], for example. In fact it is the whitest State in the country.

It is about culture, not ethnicity.