DeSantis says no new lockdowns, mask mandates or any ...

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    it really is sad to watch Democrat voters support an all-powerful state.
     
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    It will be even more interesting to watch that an all-powerful state will do with them once it becomes entrenched and no longer has a need for them.
     
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    after they supported taxing ammo and guns so folks can't afford them. Wait till the health care workers get dictated as to what they will earn and the folks watch their parents be refused treatment and sent to die. There is no other end-result once you give your liberty to power-hungry statists
     
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    If it were just a matter of shutdowns I could almost understand the inaction. It is choosing money over life which is a sin but I do imagine myself in the position of having to make such a call and that in doing so the actions might not be entirely malicious. However the no mask mandate part completely obliterates the possibility that Gov MoRon DeathSantis is acting in good faith for the interests of Florida. Masks saves lives. I know many of you do not believe this and your fake news driven ignorance notwithstanding DeathSantis know it as well. He knows it because he has been told by hundreds of Florida doctors, scientists, and researchers, he has been told by dozens of Florida Mayors and hundreds of Florida City Council-members, and the hundreds of doctors, scientists, and researchers behind them. Masks saves lives this is an indisputable fact.

    So why no mask mandate? Well because MoRon DeathSantis is the worst sort of far-right Republican trash person. Tapped by Pres Trump and passenger on his 2016 election coat-tails this man of little accomplishment and even lesser intellect is taking a full bore nosedive into the depths of right-wing nutjob anti-masker anti-science anti-morality stupidity. Driven not by a considerations for his state, or by the guidance of faith, MoRon DeathSantis cares only for one thing: that the megadonors which will fund his re-election have a strong quarterly statement and a fat bonus. How does he accomplish this? By sending people back to work, back to school, back to "normal" regardless of cost of human lives. This is a betrayal of everything that Republicans once claimed to honor and they will be made to answer for this in both there here-and-now and in the hereafter.

    I know there are many Florida Republicans on this board, having once been as such myself, so let me speak to you on this matter. Enjoy what you are sowing, soon you shall reap it. You may pat yourselves on the back as you turn blind to death and sickness in favor or foolishly worshiping dollars and economies but it will not last. This Governor will face re-election and just as the people removed the anti-masker anti-science anti-intelligence of Pres Trump so too shall MoRon DeathSantis be expelled. I swear to you all that I shall give both substantial time and effort into making this happen and if his replacement is the greatest gun-grabbing, America-hating, cop-defunding, tax-hiking, communist to ever walk this earth then that is who I will work day and night to empower out of spite for you and those like you. THAT will be your penance for tolerating 1 MILLION cases and nearly 20,000 of your brothers and sisters dead.
     
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    However the stats do not backup what you are claiming, testing is up, cases are as a result of that are as well, yet deaths remain at record lows, way below when masks where required and to a degree.lockdown's where as well.

    The numbers simply do not support the fearmongering you have subscribed to and your lack of understating the effectiveness of masks expose's how little you actually understand about them.

    But worse that that your totalitarian threats speak volumes about your true intentions, which have way more to do with total control than the health or caring about others.
     
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    if you could for once put aside your political artisanship and realize that it's not a left/right issue, you might be able to see clearly.

    lockdowns, social distancing and masking up has been down around the world yet the lockdowns 2 dot oh and 3 dot oh are happening. Why might that be? It's because the virus survives. You have masked up folks around other masked up folks and still become infected.

    Being infected isn't a death sentence and it's far from it. Your method is to toss the baby out with the bath water as opposed to focusing on the most vulnerable. That is a statist method and given your comments, you like that. That's ok but those who love liberty will never agree th you.
     
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    hear hear

    well said
     
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    Have you ever considered applying for a vanity tag? This one would be perfect for you.

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    I just get my old vaccination passport out again, have my vaccination entered and signed.
    Simple as that.
    We used to have to have them, when we travelled internationally.
    So what is the big deal ?
     
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    We spent a year asking people to do the smart, considerate, moral thing by wearing masks, keeping distance, and accept that lives are more important than the corporate bottom line, and for a year we got push-back from ignorant, selfish, science-denying, anti-masker trash people. Enough is enough. We now know that right's weak, childish response to COVID was a leading reason in removing Pres Trump, and in two short years it shall be that same issue which leads to the expulsion of Gov MoRon DeathSantis. So yes, in the end, people will obey, or they will face consequences.
     
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    But are you aware of the razor thin margin of that election that damn near put Andrew Gillum, a hardcore Socialist, later arrested in a meth drug party, in the Governors office?

    it was CLOSE

    Apparently, many on the Left in Florida want Socialism and don't care what the character of their candidate is to get it.
     
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    Friend, anti-masking and the sort of erroneous conclusions and misinterpretations such as in bold are absolutely political in nature. Anti-masking was spawned in the realm of politics and the ignorance on matters of masks/distancing/shutdowns/etc are perpetuated by right-wing pundits and blogs.
     
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    Face diaper - A means of controlling and containing those you consider inadequate to care for themselves or others.
    (Has nothing to do with infectious disease control)

    Their "necessity" is a realm of politics and ignorance and is perpetuated by left wing pundits and their far left media propaganda outlets.
     
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    When the misinterpretations, misconceptions, and outright lies and removed from the discussion the 'stats' most certainly do support the efficacy of masks and have as such since long before COVID. Hell, the fake news attacks on masks/distancing/shutdowns is more prolific than the "good people on both sides" spun lie perpetuated by the left.
     
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    Even if that were true.........

    The damage done in terms of economic devastation as well as the sharp spike in mass deaths due to people not getting the care they need for non covid related health conditions FAR...FAR ....FAR outweighs any potential benefit.

    The masks are a band-aid on a non existent problem.

    Explain the lack of regular seasonal flu deaths and the sharp drop in deaths by everything EXCEPT covid19.
    Let me help......fraud
     
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    Well said.

    We need only look to Venezuela for the answer....

    There, millions of Leftists are starving and dying form lack of ANY medical care after demanding similar draconian measures there.

    It appears the desired end result is simply, human suffering.
     
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    Well well, let that bring you comfort throughout the next four years wherein its entirely likely a Democrat majority exists in each of our 3 levels of federal government and we all learn the true meaning of control. Let the memory of what was traded away pain your mind. Gone your vision of America might be and for what? A few months of wearing cloth over your mouth when in public? What a tale this could shape up to be.
     
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    Drama and more drama.

    You should look up the actual death rate claimed. it's much lower....but even that should let you sleep at night.

    The giant fallacy with your entire argument is the assumption that covid19 is the last of the dangerous viruses we'll see.
    get used to it. China is experimenting with biological warfare. I'm positive we haven't seen anything....yet
     
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    I've been hearing for four years that the character of an elected official is irrelevent.

    For the record, masks have been preventing the spread of disease for over 100 years, but, by all means, next time you need your teeth cleaned or a surgery, tell the medical staff not to bother with a mask.
     
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    You did none of the sort, you complained, demanded and while you claim science, you denyed the facts have proven you to be totally full of it, lock down's didn't work and masks are not working either, so what do you do, you ignore reality, call people names and double down on your foolish demands.

    Problem is people who actually think for themselves have realized to ignore your programmed, uninformed and totally false information.

    Of course, when you don't get your way, like a petulant child that didn't get it's way, you threaten people with "consequences!."

    You know that, you can take your threats and shove them somewhere a little less sunny than Florida.

    You have totally exposed yourself for who you truly are for all to see and target going forward.

    And I thank you for doing that.
     
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    Florida is definitely hardcore purple, and yes, that election was way too close for comfort. But for as long as Florida does have a sane governor, I'm going to be thankful and supportive! :)

    Now, as far as the ranting about wearing masks in this thread (not directed at you @BasicHumanUnit2)
    ---- you do not need a mask mandate to wear a mask. Wear the damned mask 24 hours a day if it makes you feel safe, shower wearing it for all I care, wear it in your car. Stay in the basement, wear three masks at once, wear a damn hazmat suit for all I care, but we don't need a statewide mask mandate any more than we need more shutdowns.

    Holy hell this partisan mask craziness has pushed some folks right over the edge :wall: :spin::frustrated::angered:
     
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    Sh!t happens. Was same (or worse) for many during the great wars, but most soldiered on.
     
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    It's because they never actually locked down. The countries which locked down have had great success with suppressing the virus almost out of existence.

    Why keep pretending?
     
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    The economy is devastated because you DIDN'T lock down. You'd be fully open and mask free today, if you had.
     
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    Just like most of Europe right?
     
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