How is the mob that took over the Capitol different from rioters during BLM protests?

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Stop mindlessly repeating QAnon talking points and show evidence of this "collective democratic party" supporting the rioters.

    Or even something like this would suffice. Trump, his family and his minions partying while Trump's mob carries out his coup.

     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes, but I'm not talking about the motivation. Just the events themselves. Specifically the "violence" part.
     
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    Not sure stephen colbert will enjoy being labeled QAnon...



    Chuck Schumer... New member of QAnon..



    Nancy Pelosi... New QAnon member...

     
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    Ya, in one instance, blacks rioting, the police and national guard took extreme measures.....in the attempted overthrow of the government by WHITE people...police/guard ??..........really weak weak response....
     
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    My point was, you don't have to actively push for it. You can incite people into a riot. And if someone is injured or killed the instigator in my opinion is to blame.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Riots during BLM events have nothing to do with BLM's cause. Trump incited his followers to commit acts of violence.

    I have no problem with each side's "partisan" (questionable term) cause. I have a problem with what those who organized and promoted the event called for. In the case of Trump's rally, the calls for violence were the norm before the event. Both veiled and explicit.
     
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    I agree. Just look at those crazy Trump supporters literally burning Washington DC with riots.

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    Oh, wait, no. That was BLM and Antifa.

    My bad.

    As to whether the riot yesterday was a riot, it was a riot. Riot, riot, riot. Where are the Trump supporters on this forum calling what happened yesterday a "protest" or a "mostly peaceful protest," like the media and Democrats, including those on this board, were doing in response to the BLM and Antifa protests? What Trump supporters on this forum are defending it?
     
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    I was in agreement with you until you stated that BLM didn't incite violence. That only tells me that the media you frequent didn't report it.

    I think this riot was exactly the same as the ones we watched last year and I also suspect it was planned and executed by the same group or groups. There is good chance we will find out, I believe.

    Given that peaceful protests seem to attract these groups suggests to me that participating in these protests is dangerous and stupid. Too bad it has devolved into that.
     
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    So you prove me right. Another right-wingers trying to excuse the violence.

    Huh? Are you serious? Have you even read this forum?
     
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    That is specifically why they exist somewhat they do
     
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    I agree, as a conservative leaning individual (depends on the issue of course), I disagree with any and all rioting and violence. To me, the BLM / Antifa riots and the Capitol riot are the same in my feelings about them = Bad.

    There is one distinct difference that I don't see being pointed out. How many peoples livelihoods (small - medium - large) businesses were destroyed in the Capitol riot? Compare that number (which I am guessing is near zero) to the many thousands of completely innocent people whose livelihoods were decimated, during a global pandemic nonetheless. The difference there is glaring - the target of the riots. One group prefers to target the average citizen, having zero compassion for the peoples whose lives they destroyed; the other, targeted a government building. Do I agree with either? No. But let's be a little more real when drawing a comparison to the two.
     
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    I'm not sure you understand. Prove it means supply proof, not repeat the same baseless assertion.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Instead of all this nonsensical talk, why don't you just show BLM officials inciting its followers to violence in their protests?

    Quote and link, please.

    That would seem easier.... IF it existed, that is.
     
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    Sorry, I don't do links. I work from memory. You are welcome to ignore what I said, however.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I don't do "memory". And I regard posting unsubstantiated crap with no basis in facts is a deliberate attempt to tergiversate and waste our time. It's the very definition of "trolling". And I will call it out every time. Read my sig! I don't do all that research to just allow the other poster to claim anything they pull out of their ass without challenging it.
     
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    They are not paid by Soros.....
     
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    You chose to waste your time and wasted more with this response.
     
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    Only delusional people think that’s inciting violence. And edited too. When Trump uses peace it means war. When he says strong and cheer on it means riot. /derp

    When Democrats say black power with fists pumping it means peace. When BLM calls cops pigs it’s endearing. When they say fighting back against systemic racism or taking back their streets or defunding the police, it means talking. When Democrats call the president a NAZI or laugh at an image of someone holding his severed head, it’s just a peaceful joke. It’s funny. When Biden says he wants to literally fight people, he’s just joking.

    The hypocrisy and cluelessness has no bounds.
     
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    Then your analogy was way off base because Manson directly told his people to murder.

    I ask again the same question that I have asked multiple times already... Where has Trump stated or implied in the speech that the MSM claims he did so for people to riot? Where is the incitement? The only "evidence" provided was an edited video where Trump told people to go to the Capitol building and cheer the Senators. Cheer. Not yell. Not demand. And nothing comparable to those either. Just..... Cheer. I have asked this question many times. All that I have gotten is "oh you won't listen anyways" or some variation thereof. The only thing I can think of for repeatedly getting the same type of response is that there is no actual evidence of outright statement or implication. That it is just them parroting talking points from MSM and they don't actually know. Will you be any different? Can you point out to me where he stated or implied to those people to riot? Incited them to riot? What were the words? Even in the past when something was claimed of Trump then those who didn't like him could point to some words. Even if they were words taken completely out of context. For this...they can't even do that. The best they have come up with is "cheer on" some Senators.
     
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    Republican legislators (some publicly) considered it inciting violence Trump's own staffers and cabinet members are resigning because they consider it inciting violence. The rioters considered it a call to violence. The person who killed this cop considered it inciting violence.
    https://nypost.com/2021/01/08/feder...ath-of-capitol-police-officer-brian-sicknick/

    Let me guess: they're all part of a "Deep State Conspiracy", right. QAnon saith so.
     
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    No. They’re just cowards willing to save their own ass and say ANYTHING. Blaming Trump is easy, with little negative consequences. Standing up and saying people are personally responsible for their own stupidity, comes at a cost.

    No different when Democrats call cop cars burning, stores ransacked, and $billions in destruction, “MOSTLY peaceful protests.” Because the MSM has gone AWOL and won’t hold people accountable.

    The lie and the narrative is more valuable than the truth.
     
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    Spreading fake news or just mindlessly repeating falsehoods you believe are true?

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    Save their ass from what?
     
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    Being accused of supporting the violence of course. It’s already begun. That’s what happens with a MSM complicit in putting their agenda over facts. The sheep have spoken and politicians are cowards.

    When people who think like YOU claim “cheering on senators” means riot and “March” means destroy, what’s the point?

    On ABC this morning, Stephonopolis was interviewing someone in DC who said those being arrested were responsible for their own actions and that BOZO instantly made a fake disgusted face and “corrected” him stating TRUMP told them to do it, which is an outright lie!

    You can’t reason with the stupid.
     
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