A white woman was shot by a cop in Washington

Hmh. That's usually how policing works. But this is systemic racism, it is obvious.

 

it's how it's supposed to work, and no, this was not such a case, now had she been handcuffed and a black cop put his knee on her neck for ten minutes white the cops around him just watched ... I would agree

 

Literally millions of law enforcement interactions between nonwhite citizens and officers of every background per year... about 1,000 citizens of every background end up on a slab. You hit the nail on the head upthread when you said "it was all based on her actions."

What happened to George Floyd was inexcusable. Homicide. And those involved are incarcerated and awaiting trial. That said... it was ultimately Mr. Floyd's actions that led to force being used against him. The split second he was under control, ie no longer resisting, the thug cop who murdered him should have let up on the carotid. He did not, and hence Mr. Floyd tragically expired later that day in the Hennepin County Medical Center due to injuries he sustained under the thug cop's knee.

But to claim that the majority of blacks killed by police is due to "systemic racism" is as ridiculous as me claiming the white lady killed while invading the seat of our government is due to systemic racism. The numbers simply do not bear it out.

 

Seems that you are expressing your opinion, which is irrelevant. It's quite simple really - the investigation is ongoing.

 

There really is no right wing equivalent of leftist is there?

 

Well I'm glad that you're not a RADICAL leftist!

 

Alt-right?

 

One man’s moderate is another man’s radical. It’s all relative.

 

Well whatever YOU'RE definition of "radical" is, I'm confident that I share that.

 

Opinion is irrelevant on a public forum?
Is that just your opinion or established law?

 

No, you're opinion is irrelevant to the law. You said that "I think if you can't show that the officer didn't know then the shooting is justified." Now, that has two possible interpretations:

Interpretations #1: It is my opinion (as in "I think") that if you can't show that the officer didn't know then the shooting is justified.

Interpretations #2: I think that according to the law, if you can't show that the officer didn't know then the shooting is justified.

 

Well, since I'm not a lawyer I can only offer my opinion and not a definitive legal answer but I do note that you chose to attack my right to an opinion rather than addressing the point I made. This is not only contrary to the sites terms and conditions which state that you should address the argument rather than attack the poster but also against the spirit of honest debate that forums like this hope to encourage.
Your refusal to counter the premise could be interpreted as implying you can't refute the argument so would you like to try again? This time not making me the subject of your post if you are able or alternatively concede that you can't successfully refute my opinion.

 

Ah I see. you are claiming Babbitt's death was NOT due to systemic racism,
thanks. Hence you ignored my post #147:

repeated here:

<<<Explain how Babbitt's death is "systemic racism". And perhaps offer your solution....

And just to pique your understanding of the complexity of the problem:

"This ironic circumstance is summed up by Mohamad Safa, a Lebanese diplomat and Permanent Representative to the United Nations: "If the United States saw what the United States is doing in the United States, the United States would invade the United States to liberate the United States from the tyranny of the United States.">>> (end post)

Just to ruffle your self-satisfied conservative billion-dollar-managing personae, which melts like a snowflake when confronted with debating real economic issues.

Indeed the decades-long loss of well-paying middle class jobs in America, while you are shuffling money around for rich folks, is the reason the US is turning in on itself.

Mrs. Babbitt's death is an egregious example of the result of passions aroused by Trump's "patriotic", xenophobic 'MAGA' and "America First" nonsense, and his promises to the casualties in the rust belt, in the face of China's unstoppable rise.

 

I said nothing about your "right to an opinion", let alone "ATTACK" it! If I did, then you will have no trouble whatsoever directing me to the relevant post, but I shall not be holding my breath!

I'm not sure what "premise" you are referring to.

 

Oh COME ON! You seriously cannot tell that @Bow To The Robots is joking?

 

And neither are any of the black shootings last year, in the absence of any evidence. After the investigations are complete, we will know for sure. I'm saying MAYBE systemic racism - you're saying DEFINITELY systemic racism. Therein lies the difference.

Oh yeah, lets take seriously what this absolute JOKER has to say about the US! Lets take ANYTHING which comes from the FARCE UN seriously - the UN which had Afghanistan on it's Human Rights Council!

How exactly do you define "real economic issues?"

And the Democrats would do so much better?

How the hell is "America First" xenophobic? Why shouldn't a country put itself first?

 

I think that this post http://www.politicalforum.com/index...p-in-washington.583365/page-7#post-1072369946 that you made just 30 mins ago not only answers your question but also demonstrates that you are fully aware of the premise. That's only my opinion of course.

being the reference to you attacking me rather than my argument and

being the part where you demonstrated that you fully understood the premise.

 

Do you recognise that many on the left would hold a different position if the woman was black?

 

Hard to say. That’s asking me to speak for a lot of people that aren’t me. There’d probably be some. Dems/Libs are just as capable of being hypocrites as Reps/Cons are.

 

“America First” has a long history of being used by racists. The KKK was very found of the phrase. Given accusations against Trump I think he was unwise to adopt it.

 

Excellent argument and absolutely on point. Please kindly share with Black Lives Matter, ANTIFA, politicians, and the media.

 

Fallacy, argumentum ad hominem. I am not the topic of this thread. I am also just one person so I don't know whom you think you are addressing with 'y'all,' nor do I speak for any party.

 

Would you say that you align yourself with a party that promotes individual responsibility?

Back to your previous comment though. Explain how sexism and systemic racism lead to the shooting of a white female terrorist in the act of assaulting the nation’s capital.

Do you believe a person can be a deadly threat sans weapon in hand (firearm or otherwise)?

 

These two sentiments seem at odds with each other.

 

Fallacy, argumentum ad hominem.

Because systemic racism.

Unarmed + shot = systemic racism.