Is God deeply emotional... and is our being thankful important?

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On a scale of one to five how thankful are you for your spouse, children, neighbors and family?

  1. 5.... extremely thankful... my family and friends are AWESOME!

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  2. 4 ... generally very thankful but..... they could all be doing better

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  3. 3... somewhat thankful..... but my disappointment is justified.

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  4. 2.... my family and friends are terribly ungrateful

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  5. 1 My family, friends and neighbors do not deserve to have me in their lives. I deserve far better.

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To my mind....... I am wondering to what degree President Trump could be like King David and / or one of the
    sons or grandsons of King David who may have been involved in turning several of the tribes of Israel back to their Creator???? As you know... I personally take the idea of "reincarnation" quite seriously...... and I feel that we reincarnate over a rather wide range of roles in life.

    To my mind.... Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada fits the psychological profile of King Absolom and / or King Adonijah or perhaps Amnon the son of David who never was "anointed" as both King Absolom and King Adonijah both were.......

    P. M. Justin Trudeau's advisor Mr. Gerald Butts........ seems to fit the psychological profile of the rather brilliant "Ahithophel" whose counsel was defeated by Hushai the friend of King David.........

    You may find the following discussion both intriguing...... but perhaps also somewhat offensive within the context of this train of thought??????


    Could P. M. Justin Trudeau have destroyed the Biden campaign??????


     
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    Another interesting person from history.... Biblical history at that.... had a strange dream that could also be relevant to President Trump...... assuming that Prophet Kim Clement was the real deal.........?????

    "And Joseph dreamed a dream, and he told it his brethren: and they hated him yet the more.
    And he said unto them, Hear, I pray you, this dream which I have dreamed:
    For, behold, we were binding sheaves in the field, and, lo, my sheaf arose, and also stood upright; and, behold, your sheaves stood round about, and made obeisance to my sheaf.
    And his brethren said to him, Shalt thou indeed reign over us? or shalt thou indeed have dominion over us? And they hated him yet the more for his dreams, and for his words.
    And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.
    And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth?
    And his brethren envied him; but his father observed the saying." (Genesis 37)



    Pastor Kim Clement prophesies that Trump will win the 2020 elections
     
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    Yes... but G-d did all of them a favour as near death experiencer Bruce F. MacDonald was shown brilliantly and I shall have to try to dig up some quotations for you on that my friend but for the moment..........
    I admit it... .I am disappointed with the four hundred or so Christian Advisors to President TRump who do not seem to have yet
    explained the possible implications of this information to him?


    Jewish scholars have a teaching about "Messiah son of Joseph" that Christians should begin to look at in the light of Isaiah chapter forty five.

    We are supposed to agree with our adversaries.... quickly.... before the disagreement becomes a full fledged squabble!

    Mr. Yair Davidiy.....
     
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    Near death experiencer Ms. Ariela Solsol Periera has gone on into the afterlife a few years ago.......
    her book is amazing........

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    https://www.amazon.ca/DIVINE-TRUTHS-REVEALED-Glimpse-Material-ebook/dp/B00H5J94N8


    If I remember correctly it may be chapter ten where she recounts being shown that America....... had similarities to the world ruling Empire of Babylon............


    https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/dan/2/38/s_852038



    Dan 2:38

    And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold.
     
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    I don't think emotional is the right word since emotions are human feelings. God is Pure love and there can be no limits on His love, it is His all. Any negation (destruction) of what God Created would have to come from His antithesis; Satan.


     
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    God has emotions per the Bible, Jealousy of other Gods being a big one

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+34:14&version=KJV

    "
    Exodus 34:14 King James Version (KJV)
    14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:
    "
     
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    Don't take the OT literally, because God spoke and acted towards people at the time in the only way that they could understand.

    What God wants is for His Creations to be with Him for all eternity, but it has to be their choice since everyone has been given a free will. God will guide people and help them grow in Grace once they turn to Him and ask. Hopefully they will at some point in their life. What I noticed with some celebrities' is that when they do repent and rejoin the Church, God will take them while still in a State of Grace, and before they have a chance to fall into a sinful lifestyle again.

    The Catholic Saint Don Bosco who started the Salesian Order for wayward boys, was asked once why God takes young people. He said it's because their souls are pure, but they live among sinners.

    Anyway these are my experiences and my observations.
     
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    Saying that He is a jealous God, was the only way God could explain to the people at that time, why they shouldn't be worshipping pagan (demon) gods. How else could God tell them?

    Everything in the OT has to be taken in the context of the time and the level of people's comprehension. What really puzzled me in the OT is why Abraham accepted sacrificing his son, when we know it's something God would never ask? But then I recalled that sacrificing one's first born to the gods under duress, was very common among Semites, so how could Abraham differentiate between our Creator God that was just starting to reveal Himself to Abraham, and the demon gods they were worshipping?

    When God stopped Abraham from sacrificing His son, He was showing Abraham it was something He disapproved of. With Moses God revealed Himself even further and showed that He consisted of virtues/morals, and with the advent of Jesus Christ, God showed that He was pure sacrificial love.
     
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    I know a little Greek and was watching a video of someone who had met Saint Paisius at Mount Athos. To understand, Saints are like the prophets in the OT, they are spiritualized and can live with a minimum of water, food, sleep and spend their time in prayer.

    One day the Saint asked him to drive him somewhere, and while he was driving he asked Saint Paisius what God is like. The Saint bent his head one second in prayer, and the driver suddenly felt the overwhelming presence of God everywhere - and yet he said, at the same time, he was still driving on this very dangerous road up on the mountain.

    PS - The funny thing is when he first met Saint 'Paissius he told him I'm not going to kiss your hand because I'm an atheist. Saint Paissius said good, it shows you're not a hypocrite.
     
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    so God lied, he is not really a Jealous God, then how can you trust anything in the bible?
     
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    If that's how you want to look at it, then that's your problem.
     
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    that is how you described it, I was just questioning the way you described it

    do you believe God is a jealous God? so jealous he goes by the name "Jealous"

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+34:14&version=KJV

    "
    Exodus 34:14 King James Version (KJV)
    14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:
    "

    do you believe in this God named "Jealous"?
     
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    A normal husband will have some healthy jealousy toward their wife......
    if there is zero jealousy there..... I think that the marriage is in big trouble.

    I'm divorced twice and the other guys who were either involved at the time of the separation or soon afterward...... I feel that they did me a massive favour in both cases!

    The jealousy that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus has toward His Bride, His church.... those who have His Holy Spirit.... is very different from the type of jealousy that Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan has for Lilith and the Liliths plural. (The subject of Liliths plural.... was dealt with in a book by Ms. Anna Rountree).


    I can't remember if it was this book by her or her other one... The Priestly Bride.....





     
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    locking them up in the basement and torturing them for eternity because of that jealousy though is not healthy jealousy
     
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    But that is what was taught by Christian Pharisees and Scribes who
    gave themselves important sounding titles.............. but they really don't know a whole lot about
    what they are actually talking about.......


    Yes... their important sounding titles and even their memory of scriptures did impress me for a while.....
    but eventually I did sort through all of that....... I began to pray and ask for wisdom especially around 1988 when I began to clue that my theology might be seriously off.......
    and I have been shown error after error after error after error in my thinking since then.......

    TIME is an invention....much as cars, canoes, Boeing 747's, and Kawasaki 750's are inventions.....
    Time is used to transport souls and human spirits from point A to point B to Point C... but very few professional Christian Theologians understand the implications of that fact......

    Going down into low vibrations of spirituality is a choice...... and rising up to higher levels of vibration is also a choice..... nobody is stuck permanently in the hellish realms........



    Could the Christian gospel be much worse news?




    Here it is in one paragraph...... that is true.... once TIME as an invention is factored into the equation......

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/gay/christian-andreason.html#a04h

     
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    Ah so. More theories unsupported by evidence.

    The word thankful implies gratitude for a benefit received. I have benefited from the actions of a lot of people past and present and future for which I am thankful - thankful to people that is.

    I give no thanks to an invisible sky man.
     
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    Dennis. I have to give you credit. You continue to take Pascal's wager to a whole new level.
     
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    I think the man is either mentally ill or a liar. He should just get over himself and come out of the closet without all the drama.
     
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    I belive that this topic fits with whether or not we can understand the sense of Humour of our Creator!
     
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    Chapter six of near death experiencer Dr. Kevin Zadai's book is intriguing.....
    because it has Messiah Yeshua - Jesus going to the lowest level of hell for
    three days and three nights.......
    so......
    the Ancient of Days the Father who sent Messiah Yeshua - Jesus must love us a lot
    to ask the Word / Logos to become a human.......
    and then after an awful death.... go to the lowest level of hell for three days for all of us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    His book Heavenly Visitation is done as a series of lectures that are free of charge....
    if you will give an e-mail and technically sign up as a student......


    https://www.warriornotesschool.com/p/heavenly-visitation

    Near death experiencer Dr. Kevin Zadai also has a second FREE of charge course...... I personally have actually completed sixty six of his courses and I have earned an Associate Degree in Theology from his Warrior Notes School of Ministry. I thought that his courses were excellent.

    https://www.warriornotesschool.com/p/days-of-heaven-on-earth

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    And for the record... no living thing actually expires... .we simply move on to another higher invisible dimension of space time as postulated in String Theory.

    www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/

     
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