Virginia Lawmakers Vote To Abolish The Death Penalty With the Democrats in control, lawmakers have voted to abolish the death penalty. Friday's vote sends the bill to Gov. Ralph Northam, who is expected to sign it into law. The move would make Virginia the 23rd state to end the death penalty. https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2021/02/05/virginia-abolish-death-penalty ----- That's a very good thing in my opinion! No one in the State of Virginia will get killed anymore by being wrongly convicted or other errors, as has happened often. And besides, it is an unethical and inhumane practice from the stone age! I hope, all are in favor. Only 27 left to follow suit.
Too bad that Virginia is going that way. Executing murderers or traitors to our country is not only a great way to end the line of bad genes but sends a message to potential murders and traitors. Getting rid of the death penalty is the sad side of liberalism.
What I think is inhumane is the crimes that the that the people who get executed committed. Being executed, if anything is usually too good for them.
Well that's a pretty tone deaf thing to say considering that's the exact talk that has landed a number of people in hot water recently. Or is this another case of 'its ok when we do it' saith the left?
The thing that really changed my perspective on the death penalty was learning about the number of people who were put on death row, only to later be freed after it was discovered that they were innocent. Some of these inmates were convicted by mistake, and others were convicted from corruption. That got me reading into the amount of money put into maintaining capital punishment, I was surprised to learn we were spending millions more on death row inmates than what we would be spending if they were sentenced to life in prison. ..but the thing that really did me over on changing my mind on capitol punishment was the counter arguments for keeping the death penalty. I found that all the arguments in favor of capital punishment were based on impulse rather than reason. Basically the arguments I heard was that the satisfaction of executing scumbags was worth the extra millions of dollars spent, and the extra risk of the government mistakenly executing innocent people. That was when I finally decided I no longer supported capitol punishment. If we could guarantee the government is never corrupt, never wrongfully convicts anyone, and didn't spend more money per an execution than a life sentence, I would still be in favor of capital punishment. However, the problem with capitol punishment is the government is making a decision that once executed cannot be reversed or corrected, and I find that governments are too flawed to be carrying out those executions "Until the infallibility of human judgment shall have been proved to me, I shall persist in demanding the abolition of the death penalty" - Marquis de Lafayette
@TCassa89 To be honnest, the thing that I fear in the end of death penalty is that a state fall into laxism, which is also a great evil. When innocent people have to suffer from the lack of severity from Justice, there is also a problem. However, I agree that it's better to keep forever murderers in prison rather executing innocent people by mistake.
Its a good thing. Capitol 'punishment' is not punishment, it's state sanctioned revenge and nothing more than that. There is no case to make that it has prevented or stopped anyone from committing a crime so the idea that it does is silly. Having the state commit murder is wrong and everyone knows it.
There were only 2 people on death row in Virginia to begin with. Not a huge shift. Juries have become more hesitant to impose death sentences over the last 20 years or so.
I understand that view, plus the fact that if executions stop, taxpayers will be on the hoof for the expense of keeping people locked up for life. However, far too many innocent people are convicted and executed. They can't guarantee that all of those we put to death are guilty of their crimes. Until they can, execution remains barbaric and uncivilized.
Some of these inmates were convicted by mistake, and others were convicted from corruption. I've had personal experience with such a statement.
I respect your opinion. Problem is that it is difficult to agree on what is an "extreme case". States either tend to be absolute have the death penalty or not at all. We had a case in Connecticut where two pieces of Schiest eating bacteria broke into a home ended up tying the father up raping and killing thr wife, a pre teen child and a teen child and they set fire to one of the girls. They got the death penalty but after that the state abandoned the death penalty the government signed the bill and the bill was supposed to be for crimes going forward. It was challenged by the attorneys for the two pieces of Schiest eating bacteria and the ACLU and the state Supreme Court ruled that all cases are covered by the ban on the death penalty. So the two POS are still alive and one of Schiest 's lawyer is trying to get a new trial claiming that client was very young and did not get a "fair" trial. I am sure you would agree that the case I mentioned is extreme. The ACLU does not care that two younger children and their mother was murdered. The ACLU seems to care about murderers and not at all about good innocent people. The Old of the two bacteria says that he is "Jewish " now and demands Kosher food. Those two bacteria should have been flushed down the toilet so they can swim with their family. Look up " the Petiit family murders Cheshire Connecticut. The younger bacteria Joshua Komisarjevsky is a grandson of a Russian playright so you know that I watched this case carefully. My town shares a border with Cheshire.
Please look up the Pettit family murders in Connecticut and then tell me who is " barbaric and uncivilized".
As a lifetime and proud Virginian, this is good news... I'm 98% opposed to the death penalty, while realizing there are a FEW cases where I could see it being used.... It should be exceedingly rare at the very least and probably reserved for federal level capital crimes... Virginia has moved a long way in the past 10 years.... mostly in the right direction. Next up, another D governor so "Trump in heels" or somebody equally off the rails doesn't sneak in...
Some can be... I would just rather have that power in the hands of a single source, vs 51 sources... for consistency if nothing else...
Key word is "forever". Sadly we parole murderers and some get pardoned. A murderer is a murderer at age 21 and if it lives to 91 it is still a murderer.
