The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election

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  1. Bluesguy

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    How do you only fraud part of an election? You mean like the 51 separate elections for electors? That is not an election it's 51 of them, you just have to win the ones that will give you the majority of their votes when the President and VP are actually selected. And in the case of 2000 it came down to just 1 of those 51 elections that had taken place. And the margin was 537 votes.

    So how many fraudulent votes to change the outcome of the election of a President?

    The election for a seat in the House just decided in New York by what less than 200 votes. How many fraudulent votes to change the out come of that one?

    This canard that it must be wide spread to affect an election.
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    So you just think there's not enough to affect and election or you just don't care if it does and it's stupid either way?
     
  3. dairyair

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    That's not really what that poll was about.
    Hunter story isn't the topic. It's a non issue. He never ran for president.

    Saving the 2020 election. And Christopher Krebs called it the most secure election in USA history.
    AG Barr said there was not enough fraud to change any election results.
     
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    You did when you stopped talking about the topic and started talking about what you think I think. Which was completely way off base.
     
  5. dairyair

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    You forgot the entire world and the fake virus. If one wants to go big on conspiracy theory, go all out.
     
  6. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Immigration. Other than COVID 19 I most disagreed with Trump on Immigration

    I actually agreed with him on Drug Price reforms, and that's the only thing that comes to mind
     
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  7. dairyair

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    1 dead voter, voting for trump is frauding part of an election.
    You really needed me to tell you this?
     
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    At this point the "Lookie Here" Hunter" (Whataboutism) has grown beyond boring.:bored:

    It is clear (based on this repetitive off-topic "Whataboutism") that Biden's haters have NOTHING.

    Obviously.

    Anybody, "arguing" anything in opposition to that FACT--Might as well be chronicling the latest Bigfoot sighting.
     
  9. Kal'Stang

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    Yes it is. And just because he didn't run for President does not mean what he did does not reflect on his father who did run for President. You keep trying to dismiss that fact. Just as you're trying to dismiss the poll that shows that fact.

    And fyi...Barr et al are only talking about the votes. What the Times admitted to is about what happened before election day. So repeating that does nothing.

    Did you holler about Russia's ads affecting the 2016 election by any chance?
     
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  10. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    In 2020 Biden won the popular and electoral votes rather clearly, the popular by 4 millions. It was challenged in court 60 times and 59 of the challenges failed.
     
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    Lolwut? :roflol:
    WRONG.
    Give me a break. :bored:

    It DIDN'T "reflect on his father" (at all).

    The sour grapes are palpable.

    Big deal.

    Biden WON/Trump Lost. End of story. Onto 2024.
     
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    Everyday I’m more thankful I got out of the country when I did.
     
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    It’s not a conspiracy theory.
    Weren’t both sides against Trump?
     
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    That’s right biden won/Trump lost.
    That’s why there’s another bs impeachment happening right now.
    Trump is so unpopular and so hated that your politicians have to work extra hard to prevent him from running again.
    My only question is wouldn’t common sense dictate that a hated and unpopular candidate go away on their own?
    The reality is that good president’s are bad for corrupt politicians.
     
  15. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    So am I.
     
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  16. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    So Trump is GREAT for corrupt pols, which is why he has such support among the Republican leadership. Lots of them are desperate as **** for him to continue and this is why they were so against Impeachment II. Investigations may show up their malfeasance and they will be dragged down right along with Dirty Don.
     
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    It yielded "some results" ROFL, that's not what we were sold. Do you remember what we were sold? I sure do, that Donald Trump was a Russian Agent! I was told that the Ruskies interfered in the election, this, that and the other. And it never materialized. At any point.

    Big foot, doesn't exist.(I could also compare the farce to the Loch Ness monster, also fits.). We spent billions of dollars on the equivalent of Obama's birth certificate conspiracy theory. So the fact that they arrested people on non-related offenses, is utterly immaterial.
     
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    You're right. It didn't. Because of an admitted conspiracy by a cabal of people that purposely affected the flow if information.

    And don't get all tizzy just because I used the words "conspiracy" and "cabal". They're not my words. But the words used in the Times article.

    Yeah...people do tend to get sour when they learn that a cabal of elites doing the same things that dictators do to try and control them. That you accept this is just evidence that you put party above country. Doing the exact same thing that you portray your opponents of. There's a word for that. Well...several actually. But I'll be nice and keep them to myself.

    By hook or by crook. Expect the pendulum to swing back.
     
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    Entrenched career politicians just spent the last four years making damn sure no one outside their cabal would ever dare to challenge their profitable status quo ever again.
     
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    The poll question was misleading, if not an outright lie.
    Joe Biden was NOT directly linked to anything. Except being dad.

    And again, Hunter was not a candidate. Hunter was NOT an issues. Period.
     
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    No.
     
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    That may be what you were sold. As you only know what fake news RW media spills. You do seem to fall for fake news rather easily.

    I was sold there was an investigation to see if trump campaign had contact with Russia to influence election. And the findings were not conclusive.
    But did yield all those people I linked as having been involved in some fashion.

    Never Ever did I hear trump was a RUSSIAN Agent. That is ridiculous.
     
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    The whole damned thing was ridiculous. And expensive.
     
  24. dairyair

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    I already addressed that, I believe to you directly.
    It was not ridiculous. It certainly proved Russia was interfering in the election.
    What it did not conclude was the trump campaign being involved.

    That's why 26 Russians were removed from our Country.
     
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    This isn't the conspiracy section, please use proper forum sections.
     

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