Proud Boy charged in insurrection blasts Trump's 'deception' in new court filing

So, man facing years in prison tries to shift the blame to someone else? Shocking.

Yes, 7 people died, one was an unarmed protester killed by a police officer, one a protester trampled in the crush, 2 protesters who died of natural causes, one a police officer who died of a stroke (no fire extinguishers, didn't happen) and the other who committed suicide for their own reasons?

 

Sounds like grasping at the old "the dog ate my homework" excuse to try and save their skin.

 

Let's take a look at those 5 dead. One died of a heart attack, one died of a stroke, One was trampled to death by the crowd, one (the capitol cop) is a mystery because no death certificate was made public and the reports are that there was no damage to the head. That leaves one woman killed by a capitol cop. I'm all for trying and jailing the rioters as I was all of last year. But claiming 5 deaths caused by the rioters is a lie. In fact there was probably only one - the woman that was trampled by the crowd.

 

Like father, like son, right?

 

Shameful post.

 

Yeah because if there wasn't a riot those people would have died anyways.

 

No leniency. I'm not a fan of Trump. If you go back to my 2016 posts, I desperately tried to come up with a way any other candidate could beat him.

But...i believe our elections are rife with fraud and shady practices. That didn't come from Trump. He didn't delude me as I don't take much stock in anything he says. I simply used logic and experience.

If I were POTUS, with my beliefs about elections, I would have also called for a protest on that day. But if some instigators pushed it out of control, it doesn't mean I would have wanted THAT. And I acknowledge that in this hypothetical with me as POTUS, IT IS POSSIBLE that people outside of myself could hijack my protest.

 

Right, "Your Honor, my client is totally innocent, the man he shot dead would almost certainly have died of something or other several years from now"

If somebody dies of heart failure while you're beating them that's pretty much murder anyway and always has been.

 

Who wouldn't try to do the same thing? Think about it. They are trying to put all the heat on trump and blame the whole thing on him. If i was one of the rioters I would also be trying to blame it on The Donald. Nothing surprising about this at all, people want to save their own butts!

 

Trump supporters, like supporters of any politician/party, come in ALL walks of life. Business people, teachers, public workers, country people, city people. What "CORE"? there is no core. There are some fanatics, sure, but you try and lump them all into ONE category which is serious ignorance in my opinion

 

I don't recall saying that it's surprising. I broached the subject asking if he/they deserve leniency.

 

Yeah cuz anytime someone talks about fighting for their rights they're talking about using physical violence. [/sarcasm]

 

You are undoubtedly incorrect. Trump incited and deceived his seditious traitors the entire 2 months he lost the election.

 

It is noticeable that when the National Guard was there that none of those so called "tough guys" were not so eager to show up.

 

Yeh, y’all keep saying that but none of you are unable to answer the question you skipped over.
I'll make it easy for you to reference the original question:

What is the definition of fight if you are being told to fight or their country will be stolen in a few moments.
Before you say legally: all legal options had passed
Before you say at the polls: no new vote was happening

What could fight mean in this context besides the actual definition: (with pictures)
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I was being sarcastic, sorry if it came across the wrong way

 

Yeah trying to force on his words a hyper-literal interpretation, something he never once suggested.

“This is our Democracy–fight for it” -Raskin (impeachment manager)

 

No problem. Sorry if I took it the wrong way.

 

NO.

Why should they deserve leniency?

Even if they felt they were "possessed by the Devil (Trump)" (like that little girl in "The Exorcist"), they deserve the full weight of justice.

This is the perfect time to "set an example".
So (in the future) these Trump-Inspired Domestic Terrorists will think twice before engaging in another act of Trump-Inspired Deadly Insurrection.

 

You still cannot answer the question. Strange how that seems to be the only response I can get from any of you. If someone tells you to go fight for something it can absolutely mean many things. If they tell you to go fight for something along with where when and what they want you to fight with a deadline that has passed for the other uses of the word it is probably physically.

But trump has operated off of a different dictionary for four years and his base is only too happy to contort themselves to defend him.

 

So you admitt that based only on you "beliefs"' about elections sans proof, you would have also called for a terrorist Attack on the Capitol to stop the acceptance of the EC vote results? ? Well thank you for your honesty.

 

but you try and lump them all into ONE category which is serious ignorance in my opinion
Is that so, because I am sure you never lumped Democrats into one category.

 

I thought my answer was pretty obvious. If you can answer my question then you have also answered your own. Do you believe that Raskin, the impeachment chair, was telling people to physically fight when he told people to fight for Democracy? Seriously it ain't that hard.

b(1): to attempt to prevent the success or effectiveness of
the company fought the takeover attempt
(2): to oppose the passage or development of
fight a bill in Congress

Fight | Definition of Fight by Merriam-Webster (merriam-webster.com)

"That’s why I’ve spent my whole career fighting — and I will continue to fight — like hell..." -Biden

 

Incorrect, the election was a fraud and you could never begin to point where Trump incited violence.

You fell for the propaganda. That’s your fault.

 

Basically, any reasonable person would realize that breaking down Capitol Police barriers, fighting their way to the Capitol building, breaking and entering the building itself would be violations of law. Doubt this defense is going to fly. Out of curiosity, is he an active duty or reservist member of the armed forces?