Unarmed woman is shot by Police in Capitol. The People Who Scream ‘Police Brutality’ Don’t Care.

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  1. Seth Bullock

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    I think there were options.

    I'm not sure what she was doing when she was shot. One report said she was climbing through a broken window of a locked door. If that's true, her leg could have been struck or twisted causing pain.

    Warning shots are usually not allowed, but this seems to me like a situation where that might have driven the crowd back.

    All I can say for sure is that I would have used lethal force as a last resort, and I would be able to plainly articulate a specific threat by the specific person or persons I shot.
     
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    That summer of love cost in excess of 50 dead. That gets overlooked and the media and their puppets in DC lose their miiiinds over one dead cop who they tried to say was beaten to death until the coroner and the guy's FAMILY denied that statement. That cop murdered a woman and I sincerely hope he is held legally accountable for it.
     
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    I agree with everything else that you said, but you're astoundingly wrong on this. It's official anyway - it was deemed a justified shoot.
     
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    You didn't see the video?
     
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    Well what were the alternatives to shooting?
     
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    why do you think that?
     
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    you mean chanting hang Pence and kill Pelosi did not make it viable that the insurrectionists were a threat as they were breaking through doors to get to members of Congress and the VP in your mind
     
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    Those pathetic pieces of human waste couldn't hang their jacket, let alone hang Pence or anyone else.
     
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    I am glad they never found Pence or any members of Congress, because I am not as sure as you of what would of happened
     
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    I saw the video. It was pretty chaotic. Did I miss something?

    Alternatives to shooting?

    I don’t know if those guys had pepper spray or tasers, or if they just had guns.

    Verbal warning? “Get back or you will be shot!”

    Warning shot? Most people would back off at the sound of shots.
     
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    I told Poohbear, and you made a fuzz about it. Why did you do that?

    It's still about cops having absolute no problem to shoot a black man in the back, multiple times. Yet they did not shoot when white people attacked them on the 6th. The woman who got shot with -unlike in my example- just 1 bullet, wasn't even attacking a cop at that moment.

    Fact remains the cops were far more violent against BLM protesters. They even had no problem attacking the press.
    The way the cops just beat up peaceful protesters to make room for Donald to have a picture taken....

    Indeed and so what. You're just trolling questions around in order to ignore the cops behaved completely different.

    You're not making any argument how this explains how cops behave differently against white people vs black.

    Okay, so you CANNOT debunk the fact that cops punch the shooting of unarmed black people above their weight in society.

    It's all bla bla,... but you can't prove a thing.
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Because you said:
    Okay, so you have no example of a black man being shot while fleeing. You should've just admitted that.

    Exactly, but she was shot anyway! And she was white! So what's your point? That cops should've gone easier on her?

    It was riot police during BLM riots, who were able to use less-lethal weapons.

    White press or black press?

    There's nothing peaceful about blocking a road. And some of them were violent and threw bottles at police, so after multiple warnings to leave the area, police did what they had to do. And it's a conspiracy theory that it was to make room for Donald to have a picture taken. There's no evidence for this theory.

    Including the cops who were NOT "busy" being killed by rioters?

    It cannot be said that they behaved differently, because there was no comparable event involving mostly black people. The closest we get is BLM riots, but the police involved were specifically riot police.

    No, because it's true that black people are disproportionately killed by police. There's just no evidence that it has anything to do with racism.

    Correct. And neither can you.
     
  15. chris155au

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    So then I guess you take issue with black people saying that they FOUGHT for their rights throughout history! :roflol:
     
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    You cut out this part of my reply:

    "Again, I didn't say that it is "comparable." In fact I have specifically said that the two events are DIFFERENT and therefore cannot be compared."

    You CONTINUE to downplay what happened as just some broken windows and stolen TV's! :roflol:
     
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    Are warning shots legal?
     
  18. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    People SAY alot of crap.
     
  19. chris155au

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    I can't think of any other reason why you would've posted it.
     
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    I disputed the claim an entire city was burned down, and your reaction to that has been systematically that I'm wrong.

    Negative. You previously accepted that this was a fleeing man who got shot in the back, with your reaction that it was justified because the guy admitted he was wrong. It's still is a man who fled to his car, the cops running at him to shoot him in the back. That's completely different from cops being attacked by a mob of white fascists and they not shooting 1 bullet when they mob were busy killing the cops.

    I be ignoring the question since the point remains that the white fascist were not shot at when they were attempting to kill cops.

    Capitol police still did not shoot at the white fascist mob who were attempting to kill cops, while they have no problem shooting a fleeing black man in the back.

    I be ignoring the question since the point remains the cops even have no problem attacking the press at BLM protests.

    Go source it was a violent protest prior to police attacking them to clear the streets for Donalds foto opportunity.

    I be ignoring the question since the point remains that cops reacted completely different when a violent mob of white fascists attacked them.

    riot police = police: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riot_police so your excuse is rather dumb.
    Point remains the police reacted totally different for not shooting at a violent white fascist mob trying to kill them vs black people who flee from them.

    The evidence is overwhelming since....
    I already sourced that cops arrest black people +300% more on drug related offenses than white people, while white people commit more drug related offenses.
    I already sourced that cops stop and search black people far more, while again they do find white people are % wise more criminal.
    It's concluded it's because of the racist behavior of cops.

    It's exactly on par with:
    Several studies have found that race plays a powerful role in how the general public — and, by extension, those in the criminal justice system — see people. A recent series of studies published by the American Psychological Association, for example, found that people are more likely to see black men as larger and more threatening than white men, even if the black men are not actually larger. Another study published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology in 2014 found that people are more likely to view black children 10 years and older as “significantly less innocent” than their white counterparts.

    According to the commission’s report, judges are less likely to cut black men a break than white men. White men were more likely to get their sentences reduced under the judge’s discretion than black men, and white men got larger reductions than the ones black men got.


    https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/11/17/16668770/us-sentencing-commission-race-booker

    It's about you brining up a point that you can not prove.
    It's not up to me to debunk whatever you can not prove.
     
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    So? Your reply seems to suggest that black people must have not have fought to end slavery.

    Since you brought it up, The people who can't cope they lost the fight, brought their pro slavery flag in the capitol while trying to undo the political process in who is going to be the next president. Them folks were the ones Donald said to go fight like hell or else lose their country.
     
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    Right or wrong, in the few seconds after she was shot, I'll bet Babbit regretted her actions and if she had it to do all over again, she wouldn't have tried to climb through that window.
     
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    It's indeed not on par with what the white fascist mob did, and so it's justify to continue to downplay it correctly, when you drag it in as if it's on par / comparable.
     
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    You cut out this part of my reply:

    "Again, I didn't say that it is "comparable." In fact I have specifically said that the two events are DIFFERENT and therefore cannot be compared."
     
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    Your leaving out "You CONTINUE to downplay what happened" about the BLM riots... and I'm 100% morally correct that this is to be downplayed when YOU keep dragging it to compare it with the white fascist mob attacking the Capitol.

    Time to cry us all a river.
     
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