NY: Charge dropped against white woman who called police on Black bird-watcher

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  1. Space_Time

    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    The denouement. Is this the right way to dispose of the event? Has your 'racial identity' shaped your life:
     
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    At minimum she should should have to pay restitution.
     
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    No, I don’t feel as if I have a racial identity at all, but I can see, and do understand, that not everyone else feels the same as me.

    From my experience (so take this with a grain of salt), black folks tend to have a very strong racial identity, and most white folks tend to have a strong national identity, with only a minority having a strong racial identity.
     
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    One is divisive and one is unifying.

    Guess which one is which.
     
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    Well, I don’t think that any identity is inherently divisive, but having separate identities within a single culture is inherently divisive, and can lead to tension, such as what has been playing out recently.
     
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    Black identity isn't divisive?

    I guess just White identity is, right?
     
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    Whats wrong with watching black birds?
     
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    <<sigh>>

    I just wrote, I don’t think any identity is inherently divisive.
     
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    <<<sigh>>>>backatya.

    Try doing a Caucasian Entertainment Network and see just how divisive it is.
     
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    Yes, because having 2 distinct identities within a single culture has the potential for division. I wrote that exactly in my first response to you.

    Did you even read it before you quoted it?
     
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    I did.

    But you said...

    And having B.E.T., Black History Month, et.al. isn't inherently divisive?

    Do you even remember what you posted?
     
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    So white folk want to CONSTANTLY label a "particular" ppl as black, as has been shown over the last 1000 years but all of a sudden you take offense to the label youve given them because? Snowflake much?
     
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    It's apparently white privilege to call the cops on a black man, accusing him for whatever, obviously falsely accusing him -which is illegal- but face no consequences,... since she facebooked around following some therapy.
     
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    there is both white racists and black racists and neither are unifying... other than their own types.. other racists
     
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    if I recall correctly, the man said he did not want to press charges, that would be my guess why they dropped them

    found it

    "Black birdwatcher in Central Park 911 call doesn't want to be involved in prosecution of Amy Cooper, NYT reports"

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/08/us/christian-cooper-central-park/index.html

    ""On the one hand, she's already paid a steep price," Cooper said in a statement, according to the Times. "That's not enough of a deterrent to others? Bringing her more misery just seems like piling on.""

    "So if the DA feels the need to pursue charges, he should pursue charges. But he can do that without me," he said.

    I think he took the high road there and he is right, she will never live this down, she has been punished
     
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    Goes without saying. Except 1 is a minority and the other one isn't.

    Say you got 10% racists in a group of a 100. And you got 60 white vs 10 black + 30 others. Than you still got 6 white racists discriminating 10 black people (and so getting close to 1 on 1: big impact) vs 1 only black discriminating 60 white (not close to 1 on 1: hardly noticeable). And in this case, the justice department gives the white racist not even a slap on the wrist because the racist went to some bogus therapy sessions to avoid it. What a joke.
     
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    doesn't matter, racism is racism... 1 is too many
     
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    be funny if they found out they were related, having the same last name and all :) small world - stranger things have happened
     
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    Negative. It's in the OP. The DA dropped the case because: She completed five "psychoeducation and therapy" sessions that helped her "appreciate that racial identities shape our lives"

    It was a white DA who did not even want to give a white racist a slap on the wrist. In the end, the racist got away without a conviction on her name and won't show up in any stats about hate crimes committed because there was no sentence. It is actually rather typical how white people get away with crime FAR more often than black people. No really. It's a statistical fact that it works like this in the US. The US sentencing commission keeps tabs on it.

    And them racists are a dime a dozen. The idea that this is going to be a deterrent... lol
     
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    Well, I guess this woman had friends in the court, maybe the charges were dropped because of her skin color?
     
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    I think most blacks and whites have a strong National Identity

    I think a minority of both races hold racial identity above all else, to the point that they would be what I would call a dangerous racist
     
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    lol...
    So when people are equally racist, it simply doesn't matter that minorities suffer exceptionally more when even 1 is too many? lol
    What a fail argument.
     
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    being a minority does not give one an excuse to be a racist.... racism is wrong... period

    the ironic thing is, in 100 years, the majority will be more of a brown, the minority will be white and black folks

    let's hope we can all get along by then
     
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    That's not responding to the fact that when there is an equal amount of racism going on, that minorities suffer significantly more, and you finding it's irrelevant as in it doesn't matter.

    This sounds like the proud boys chanting the Jew will not replace us.
    And it's not likely, since the interracial marriages are like less than 1 in 5 on one hand,
    and on the other hand that racism plays a good roll in the US society.
     
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    I did not say it was irrelevant, I said racism is wrong regardless who is doing it...

    do you think it's ok for minorities to be racist? I think we could both agree all racism is bad, bad for society and the victims of such racism

    I think America is a melting pot, and I do believe as time goes on, more of us will be mutts, and I am one of them, I have no issue with that, do you?

    I think most Americans would be surprised if they knew the truth about their dna and how they are not as pure 'whatever' as they think they are, even Obama was half white - I would say being pure white or pure black is the minority
     
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