Dissent by Justice Thomas in election case draws fire for revisiting baseless Trump fraud claims

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  1. MJ Davies

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    Dissent by Justice Thomas in election case draws fire for revisiting baseless Trump fraud claims

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    I am not shocked by Thomas' dissent and completely understand why some people are upset with his position on this matter. It stokes the flames.

    What do you think?
     
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    It isn't within their jurisdiction, right?

    I would LOVE to tell other states how to run their elections. And we will start with redistricting.
     
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    People have been complaining about this because the SCOTUS didn't want to hear the case before the Electoral votes were done. Now, they are saying they won't hear it because it's moot. I get the impression some people don't understand how the process works and think they can just take it to the SCOTUS and have it overturned and install Trump. Thomas' dissent is taken as "proof" the election was stolen.

    How would redistrict everything?
     
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    They didn't say that. They just denied the appeal. Most of the time that means they simply agree with the lower courts.
     
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    My use of "they" refers to some people making claims about why the SCOTUS wouldn't hear the case.

    My apologies for any confusion.
     
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    How dare Justice Thomas dissent. He obviously doesn't know his place and insists on wasting the court's time. Next case!
     
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    https://redistricting.lls.edu/redistricting-101/why-should-we-care/
     
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    I reckon his comments are on the money. SCOTUS had a chance to stick it up Humpty and his wankers, but they demurred. Thomas is not saying Humpty is right...he is saying that SCOTUS denied itself a chance to put a nuclear rocket into Humpty Trumpty's 'wall.'
     
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    If the Supreme Court doesn't want to hear a case founded on one of the basic precepts of the Constitution, a state legislatures right to decide election law and the blatant violation of such that occurred in PA, then what the hell do they even exist for? #cancelSCOTUS
     
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    Come on...let's not go over very cold coals. No standing....no cause.
     
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    Justice Thomas is 100% correct.
     
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    Can't wait until he is replaced with a liberal.
     
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    Wrong. It is explicitly under the Constitution within their jurisdiction. On the other hand, abortion, gay marriage, and telling the EPA what substances they have to study under the clean air act are not in their constitutional jurisdiction in any way shape or form.
     
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    When state government officials and the state supreme court violate election and constitutional law by illegally changing election law, then what body is able to hold them accountable? The Trump haters seem to think that striking down those illegal changes is going to put Trump back into office, few people believe that. But if not struck down then they stand in order to screw up the next election. Even an Aussie should understand the importance of having fair elections and not the chaos created by these last minute changes.
     
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    Notably, the two other dissenters were Alito and Gorsuch. Now, Alito is a blowhard, so this was expected. However, I didn't expect it from Gorsuch, who I thought was the most centrist of the three Trump appointees. It turns out that maybe Barrett and Kavanaugh are not what Trump wanted the to be, namely lackeys who rule in Trump's favor every single time, because they owe him one after nominating them.

    Roberts, on the other hand, seems to be setting a trend here, voting consistently with the more liberal members of the court.
     
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    More voters doesn't equal screwing up an election. On the other hand, if your party can only win when turnout is low, maybe it is for you.
     
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    Hopefully a 30 year old hyper partisan one
    Think Thomas but on the other end of the spectrum

    He’s 72, which would put him at 80 on Biden’s likely exit — average life expectancy for his demographics is 69

    Just some interesting stats
     
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    I believe the Democrats should nuke the filibuster and expand and pack not just the SCOTUS but all circuit courts. Then add PR and DC as states.
     
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    You really think Joe is going to try for 2? I don't personally think he will

    On topic, I'm glad the SCOTUS made this decision, although it was the ONE case remaining from the 2020 election that had SOME reasonable grounds for consideration. However, I think it was the right decision, that the PA Supreme Court can make common sense emergency rulings based on current events that the legislature doesn't have time to get to.

    I wonder if this means those 10K ballots get to be counted now?? I expect they should and the state totals modified accordingly...
     
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    I read a part of it, and he completely mischaracterizes the reason behind the Pa Court making their decision to allow 3 days..

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    Nobody was 'dissatisfied'. I don't see where Thomas even mentions the actual reason why this issue started in the first place.... the USPS letter SPECIFICALLY to Penn saying they couldn't guarantee ballots could be delivered by their state deadline.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/postal-service-pennsylvanias-mail-in-ballot-laws-election-issues/
     
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    I don’t know about the two term thing. If they are smart they will push every legislative item during his first two years, allow him to step down and then allow Harris to finish out his first term. She would be eligible to run for two additional terms with the very powerful advantage of incumbency which was made even stronger during trump.
     
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    That's the political angle, not the personal angle.... Joe's waited and worked so hard for this, he's not leaving before one full term... But I expect he'll make Kamala much more visible in 2024, and bow out early that year.

    With a Job Well Done behind him...
     
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    I think I know quite a few people that lived alone and received more than ONE mail in ballot.
    I think its foolish for them to not research and scrutinize the heck out of this.
    There is a reason why voting wasn't always ALL BY MAIL in the first place
    The postal system existed before voting booths did
    I'm speaking in terms of FUTURE elections, not this recent one.
     
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    1. I bet not.... I bet people got more than ONE mail-in ballot APPLICATION..... That happened here in Va as well...
    2. Who is 'them'? The SCOTUS? I imagine that even if this case were heard, they would end up siding with the Pa Court here... but they couldn't even get 4 to hear it. Where were O'Kavanaugh and the Handmaid?
    3. Voting IS almost all by mail in 5 states, some for several decades...
    4. OK... so what?
    5. I imagine that for the next election in Penn, either the legislature will have to officially extend the counting deadline for 3 (or X) days or modify the last day a ballot can be officially requested, which also created the conflict at hand. Either would be fine with me, but it was irresponsible of the legislature to set dates in law that don't meet USPS standards, even before the pandemic...
     
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    none of that proves anything I said wrong. You can't mail out votes for a country like its the local shoprite ads and expect there to not be any mistakes
     

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