U.S. Education Rankings Are Falling Behind the Rest of the World

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  1. apexofpurple

    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

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    I said 'counties', twice actually, because at the most comprehensive level schools are evaluated as districts along certain metrics, the two most notable being percentage of 11/12th graders that pass AP courses and general mathematics proficiency. In Democratic controlled districts (counties) these scores are typically lower than their surrounding areas. Now its also worth noting here that the progressive far-left wants to do away with AP courses and of course we all know that they regard mathematics as 'racist'... but I'm sure this has nothing to do with the matter at hand. /eyeroll
     
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    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't want to fix a problem, I want experts to fix a problem. I don't care what cased a problem. I want experts to fight a disease, I don't care is the disease was caused by virus, bacteria or air pollution. You have a right to think "That's an utterly ridiculous position".
     
  3. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes. Democrats are responsible for everything, good or bad — because they are the only ones even attempting to fix any issues. I agree

    How do we fix these issues with only 50% of our government working to do so?
     
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    HockeyDad Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You certainly don't make it better by opening the border to the third world. IQs began dropping in America in the 1970s at the exact time that it opened it's borders to the 3rd world.
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    That shitbag you call a president has let more 3rd worlders cross the border since he took office than Trump let cross in the last three years. This is in the face of a global pandemic and spiraling unemployment.

    It is shocking that the left is perplexed about falling IQ. Are they really that stupid or are they just pretending to be that stupid? Quit pretending to care about dropping school scores and then engaging in the one activity GUARANTEED to drop school scores. Pro-tip: if you are doing exactly what the Koch brothers want, perhaps your activism is meant to benefit billionaires and not ordinary Americans.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So we didn’t have any illegal immigration prior to the 70’s?

    Biden is also your “shitbag President”...

    Also, do you have a source on Biden letting more illegals in within the last two months than your orange king did? I found raw immigration numbers and they disagree with your statement but I’ll maybe your source will clarify the deviation.
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    The real world doesn't work like that, sorry.

    I don't understand you, or the issue?

    I certainly understand what I'm talking about.
     
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    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In what country do you live? Here in the US we have compulsory education law, where our government force parents to educate their children.
    Here is some information:
    https://www.findlaw.com/education/education-options/compulsory-education-laws-background.html
     
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    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

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    <COMMENTS EDITED> You've correctly identified a major problem with America with this education thread but you're intentionally stopping short of placing blame where it indisputably rests; with Democrats. I say intentionally because I know you know better.
     
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    But they control the school districts with the worst performance. The two worst performing school districts in Texas are Dallas ISD and Houston ISD - large cities run by democrats, with majority democrat voters, and majority democrat school boards. I didn't look it up, but would bet that this holds true in other red states also. The worst performing schools would be the large city schools, and the vast majority of those cities are controlled by democrat voters and democrat politicians, and rest assured, those schools are run by democrats.
     
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    Pretty sure that we are discussing Asian children who are American citizens, not foreign students who go to college in the United States.

    Agreed that sports facilities like the one you showed are totally ridiculous. No way in hell should taxpayers be paying for stuff like that (well, if the taxpayers voted on something like that for their area, well, more power to them.) However, is it your point that if predominantly black schools had better football stadiums, then their academic performance would be better? The changes required to get better academics in the schools must start in the home.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How? I am agreeing that is largely Democrats fault, Republicans cannot be blamed as they have no involvement whatsoever. Hands off and then blaming Democrats seems to be the mo. I would make a remark about your integrity also but I don’t have to.
     
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    Exactly what policy or policies "reversed the LFPR" and how did they do it? You can't say because your claim is propaganda.
    Unemployment was going down before the Orange Oaf took office.

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    No, that's flat nonsense as I established.

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    Doesn't bother you people can read the graph above and see your claim is absurd?

    He doubled the deficit to $1t. Economic growth in his first three years was virtually identical to Obama's last three.

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    The only question in my mind is whether or not you believe the claims you're making.
     
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    Propaganda Alert!

    This is what Republicans do with education tax dollars--waste it on high school football stadiums.

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    Allen, Texas
     
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    Black unemployment was already coming down before Trump.

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    Try again.
     
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    Exactly what policy or policies "reversed the LFPR" and how did they do it? You can't say because your claim is propaganda.
    Unemployment was going down before the Orange Oaf took office.

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    No, that's flat nonsense as I established.

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    Doesn't bother you people can read the graph above and see your claim is absurd?

    He doubled the deficit to $1t. Economic growth in his first three years was virtually identical to Obama's last three.
     
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    I'm sorry if you took offense to that, I actually intended it to be a nod towards your high posting quality. But back on topic I wouldn't at all say Republicans have no involvement as they have expended considerable effort to reclaim school boards from Democrat hands, to oppose the damaging radical curricula, and to reign in teach union demanded run-away spending. To put it another way, they are 'resisting'. Now as to their success in this endevour well I think we'll agree there hasn't been much success at all. I mean, after all, cancel culture just killed Dr Seuss. They cant even stop the metaphorical book-burning.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Resistance to everything helps no one. I agree that PC has gone from being understandable to being totalitarian but nothing will ever be fixed with the idea that one party is to blame for everything while the other party is responsible for nothing. We need to emphasize education and remove all barriers that we can. Cost is one of those, administrators are another.
     
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    Heh, as absurd of a waste of money as I think that is its worth noting that when it was constructed the town had an average household income of about $150,000 and since the residence loved their HS football so much they willingly took on the tax burden of such extravagance much in the same way any other posh wealthy area builds their attractions be they a yacht club or a golf course or some performing arts center.
     
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    I grew up in wealthy community. I saw them waste money in much the same way.
     
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    The book burners and banners are never the good guys.

    CANCELING DR. SEUSS
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    You can't see the forest for the trees. As long as you keep 'spot welding' each new generation of kids, while failing to address the root cause, you will ensure this problem is never fixed. Is that what you want?

    The only possible way to fix this permanently, so that future generations of kids are not blueprinted by crap parenting and are not personally compromised in every way, is to address PARENTS. If we refuse to do that, nothing will change.
     
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    Well they're certainly trying to fix the issue of too many independent thinkers, and too many people owning land and resources. They really don't like that!
     
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    Pretty sure it's the same group who gets paid lavishly by their elite families to swing by in the US, and became US citizens and send their kinds to schools with the same economic resources. It's even a thing that pregnant Asian women travel to the US to give birth to American citizens. The price of that is 20,000 bucks at a minimum. Not some amount some person is able to pay when working in a sweatshop.

    Nope. You're making a valid point that the loads of US schools and universities invest far too much in sports and not in academics. Just saying, you don't see them massive temples belonging to schools in the more poor neighborhoods, who are mostly populated with black people. The economic resources there are scarce, and that's unlike the Asian elite. So you can stop wondering why the Asians are doing so well in schools etc, compared to black people.
     
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    You've responded to an ''EM''ployment related issue with an ''UN''employment rate chart

    ONCE AGAIN, Blacks Employment rate has historically been higher than Trump's 59.3%

    Bush; 59.5% of the black population, aged 17 and older were working/employed
    Clinton; 61.4% of the black population, aged 17 and older were working/employed

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    Now, for partisan reasons, Trump's supporters have been aggrandizing the ''UN''employment rate, ''The lowest rate since the 60's, MAGA!'', and for partisan reasons, they've ignored talking about the ''EM''ployment rate, and the main reason why; During Trump's good economical times/over a three year period, said rate ONLY increased by 1%, (from 60.2% to 61.2%), and Trump's highest employment rate was historically lower than Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton, and Bush Jr.'s highest employment rates.

    In addition, Trump's Hire an American first EXECUTIVE ORDER/significantly lowering the number of skilled working visas and renewals, consequently stalled the employment rate, and said protective measures were partially responsible for increasing the number of unfilled jobs to a record high.

    Here's a question that would identify the below and above average intelligent posters in this forum;

    Question; Economically, Fiscally, and Socially, which of the following labor market info is more important?

    a. The percentage of people who are actively looking for work, thus, the unemployment rate

    or.

    b. The percentage of people aged 17 and up who are working/employed, thus, the employment rate

    Last, today, we need a higher employment rate more than ever, and higher the employment rate, higher the REVENUES, and economical growth.

    Note; The mass exit of baby boomers from the workforce aren't paying the bills, and due to said mass exit, a number of mandatory expenditures have grown/are growing faster than the economy.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Liberals did not “cancel” dr Seuss. A private company decided to remove a few books that are not even best sellers because they no longer want them in their portfolio.

    I thought y’all supported the “free market”?
     

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