The Left's Socialist Attack on the Nuclear Family

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  1. Libhater

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    The left's attack on the nuclear family and the collectivist mindset that is growing in the United States echoes narratives from the Chinese Communist Party with a growing support for socialism.

    Morgan Zegers, founder of Young Americans Against Socialism says, "If you look at what happens at socialist conventions, they discuss how they have to get rid of the nuclear family structure to implement socialism--it's more easy," she said. "What they specifically talk about is how pregnancy is a tool of oppression, and they need to free women from being 'baby making machines.'"

    "We recently saw Communist China use that same exact language, and so it's very concerning for me," Zegers added.

    For Communists, "liberation" means the destruction of cultural norms "imposed" by traditional social morality. In their view, the patriarchy of the traditional family structure oppresses women, and traditional sexual morality represses human nature.

    "They say that they're empowering us, but in the end, they're really just trying to create a collectivist mindset, so that's what we have to fight against, and in particular, language from the Left and Black Lives Matter initiative feeds into this narrative," Zegers said.

    BLM's official website stated, "We disrupt the western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-l...es-language-of-ccp-morgan-zegers_3720443.html

    No one should be surprised of seeing me constantly referring to leftists as supporting if not entirely engulfed in socialist-communist behavior after reading this post among others.

    Does anyone doubt that the leftist BLM as having two self identified Marxist leaders are anything but a communist run organization?

    Any political party or any ideology that seeks to break up the American nuclear family by offering anyone from a family to come join them in a collectivist commune-like manner perfectly fits the description of what one would find in a socialist-communist movement. Along with the break-up of the American family these amoral leftists will keep pushing to see that more and more of GOD's children are murdered (aborted).
     
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    BLM is less relevant than OAC. Have fun with your boogiewomen.

    Biden is pro-family. Good luck trying to paint him otherwise.
     
  3. Libhater

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    What is OAC? And where did I mention biden in that OP? What I displayed here was the leftist support of socialism and or communism as it pertains to breaking up the American family into a collectivist type society.
     
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    No you didn't.
     
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    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    Your source is Epoch Times. You completely left out the part where the Left kidnaps and eats conservative children, to keep the numbers down. It is why there are no conservatives in China. They have all been eaten.
     
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    The same crap website that floods Facebook...........People posting this as news is just trolling!
     
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    Epoch Times has been around for awhile as a free newspaper. It seemed to be mostly pro China culture but anti China government, as if it was written from the point of view from someone from Taiwan, or perhaps Hong Kong. But at some point it turned highly conservative, in the vein of PragerU, losing much of its Chinese cultural flavor, to make room for American Right wing propaganda pieces.
     
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    Could of predicted that someone like your leftist self would turn your head from accepting the truth as to the leftist push towards socialism and toward outright communism. Next you'll be telling us that the current group of leftists are really Bible Thumping pro-life Christians who have the best interests of the nuclear family in mind. LOL!
     
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    AOC. It wasn't hard to figure out. AOC is the left. Biden is POTUS. If you're just discussing fictional characters, I'll get some popcorn.
     
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    It was you Chi-com Cowboy who mentioned OAC. OAC isn't the same as AOC, now is it? And I never mentioned biden in the OP, and so biden had nothing to do with the message from the OP. Got it now, or do you still need to pop some corn to get things straight?
     
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    Chicom? That's pathetic. The cat isn't impressed.
     
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    Seems as if you are arguing with that pretend liberal in your head again.

    While I do think that belief in a god entails a great deal of silliness, I do have a very close relationship with my children and grandchildren. Seems to me that what y’all are complaining about, is that a child tends to do better with the support of a community larger than the core family. I have read studies that suggest that typically the more adults involved in a child’s life, the better off they tend to be. Just as a child who grows up with only one parent suffers, a child who say, grows up with both parents and a grandparent, tends to do better than those without the grandparent, or uncle, or even a close family friend.

    Having grown up in a conservative community, it was clear to me, from an early age, that the Christian ideal was to keep children ignorant of worldly things for as long as possible, in the mistaken belief that that ignorance would make them better people. But in reality, it is just a control issue. An authoritarian move. Control the message, control the kid. It is the primary motivation for sending children to religious schools. To control the message.

    A child who has regular access to people of varying ideas and customs sees a whole different world than those who see a whole lot of sameness, all around them.
     
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    What a load of CRAP!
     
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    Does the pluralization of Left mean the ENTIRE Left? If no, did you mean to say a PORTION of the Left? If yes, what portion of the Left? Otherwise it seems you're making sweeping generalization which is wrong when EITHER side does it. And yes, I have called out those on the Left who've made sweeping generalizations of the Right.
     
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    Hmmm, American churches make it a central tenet of their ideology for ALL people to join their family ... guess that makes
    American Christians a bunch of Commies under YOUR little theory ... oh well, whatever dude.
     
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    Oh bunk. So you quote a rabid anti-socialist who is known to exaggerate and even invent bullshit, and you have no link to a socialist website where such views are expressed???? Now why would that be? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.
    Well I'm here as a socialist to tell you that is bunk.


    Fine. China is not communist and certainly not socialist. Zegers' rabid anti-left insanity drives her to spew such nonsense.

    Communists are extremist left nutjobs pining for the insane old days of the Russian and Chinese revolutions. They aren't worth my time.

    Ah! But you have no link. So it's likely just more of your made-up claims to reflect your personal opinions.

    Most Marxists today don't align themselves with communist ideology and strategies.

    All I have seen is your claims. We know you're anti-left. No surprise there. And we see no analysis that even attempts to explain how breaking up the nuclear family is beneficial to the cause of working class ownership and control of the MoP. In fact, I see the opposite. The nuclear family would benefit society if it were strengthened and protected.
     
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    I, for one, am not at all surprised. It is consistent with your obsession to identify dems with "socialist-communist"

    As far as I know, BLM is not recognized as "spokesperson" of the dems.

    Relax, don't let that "commies" paranoia possess you.
     
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    who killed the nuclear family? you want to blame an amorphous "left?" the same corporate american forces that created the nuclear family (in the interest of a more mobile and commodified workforce as well as consumption of mass produced goods).

    in all historical and biblical terms the extended family (including polygamous forms) is most natural for primates. the nuclear family is a 20th century artifact, created by advertising and tv. in marxist terms the bourgeoise can better exploit smaller units of people.
     
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    I think maybe these BLM guys are liars. Vietnam is a Socialist government and they have deep respect for their elders and deeply intertwined extended families. They also are hard working, thrifty, responsible, don't burn down their neighbors business and would never sit around on their asses demanding a handout if they were perfectly capable of earning their own living. I'm not sure that "socialism" explains the pathology of some of these left wing groups.
     
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    Biden is very pro Biden family. Other families he couldn't care less.
     
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    Its put out by Falun Gong. They have good reason to dislike the Chinese government, but the fanatical pro-Trump stuff has torpedoed any credibility they might have built up (to be fair, they were pretty out there already).

    Personally I love the Epoch Times. The leave piles of the newspapers in a shopping centre I sometimes visit. With my workplace no longer buying newspapers the Epoch Times is the only free newspaper I can get to line my cat litter tray. If they stop distributing it I'll have to start buying newspapers. I won't hear a word against it!
     
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    Projecting again I see. Trump is very pro...Ivanka. I mean he really likes that 'piece of ass'. I suspect he'd throw the rest to the wolves in a heartbeat, but Ivanka could come to some sort of....arrangement.
     
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    Well actually your post has an element of truth. As a part of BlM mission, as stated on their website, is to disrupt the "Western Prescibed Nuclear Family." So that would further disrupt the lives of black children who desperately need nuclear families.

    And would equalize society by encouraging segments whose children tend to do well because they ARE within nuclear families ...to do worse by disrupting that environment. Get rid of nuclear families and make all children at risk and equal instead of just SOME children.

    Its called eating your own for the agenda of absolute equality.

    So everytime a black celebrity speaks to encouraging black men to be active fathers within the lives of their children ...think about what they are saying and why. Is BLM on board with that?
     
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    If there's someone to whom that sentence could be referring, it's certainly your dispicable idol Trump.
     
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    Your rant fails to account for the fact that, with the exception of China, and only recently at that, communist countries want their women to make babies to have more workers, and the nuclear family is their tool towards that. China is the exception because they got too good at it and are now are overpopulated.
     

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