A sage might say that "empty space" is simply the "UN-manifested". and that the human assumptions of time and space are merely illusions.... But the Giftedone has ALL the answers. you should probably ask him.
You cant be serious can you? Well maybe you are? How much matter is required for an abstract construct? So photons warp space? a construct? Not a physical reality? Which is it? You have not explained how space can warp? Space is empty space = x * y * z, please demonstrate that space can be warped. Oh? Now you claim space is a fabric? So then its really fabric that is warping not the area the fabric is in? So space = gravity? Maybe gravity = fabric? Can I make a pair of boots from this fabric? So then gravity warps space and warped space forces an object to change direction as it passes by your ball? Gravity = a space warp, not a field? Are you trying to confuse people? You mean the bigger the mass the bigger the space warp dont you? What does gravity have to do with anything? So now gravity changes space warpage? So is it gravity or mass? YOu just said mass. What mass is out there that you are talking about that can redirect the path of an asteroid? Dark matter? Invisible railroad tracks? Curvature of the outer limits? Inquiring monds need know! Is there matter in x*y*z?
What a bundle of confused gibberish - I did not say photon's warp space. Again confused - 1) I told you that Einstein claimed these things - not me - 2) you were given Einsteins explanation of how space warps. None of the above was claimed .. complete nonsense your post is - consisting only of mischaracterization and falsehood . It is pointless to continue responding to such nonsense .. so say something that is not fallacy/ false accusation - if you want to continue.
Well than what is warping space? Beer farts? Ah so you really didnt mean anything you said after all. ...and since you are not capable of demonsrtrating that weener is correct, it goes without saying you have no clue. You advocate weinerism and cant litigate it, typical obtuse concession! lol You had your chance to demonstrate the characterization you are selling, and failed, cry on someone elses shoulders, hell you didnt even attempt it. Yes I dont know why I waste my time with you. say something thats not utter bullshit if you want to continue. fact 1 'space' has no physical mass at all. fact 2 open 'space' space with nothing visible to the naked eye, has no physical mass or force capable of acting upon a large objects such that it changes direction. fact 3. mass cannot warp space, outer or otherwise. fact 4. the effects of gravity cannot warp space fact 5. the equivalency of e to m breaks down @ > c and 0. lol Now if you could only argue your point we might have something to talk about, but soapbox claims without justification only proves you have nothing. Thats ok you have a right to your 'opinion', and you know what they say about opinions when you have nothing to validate them. Oh thats right they arent yours any more, now they are weeners LOL
btw when you cant demonstrate your beliefs and instead duck out throwing it back on weener so you dont have to respond, that is an appeal to authority fallacy and its all on you, not me
You are mindlessly projecting your issues onto others. You are welcome to your opinion that Einstein's theories are "bullshit" and "soapbox claims". Thing is though .. his theories have been proven .. yours have not
Ok Im getting really bored with you. More false, his models 'sort of work'. Proven is bullshit. The expanding universe came from hubble not weener. Time dilation from lorentz, not weener. You made a religion out of your false god weener, who in the beginning of his career denied the existence of the aether, later ate crow, denied the expanding universe, later ate crow. You keep quoting 'pop physics' nothing to do with reality. the map is not the territory ffs. Inertial Guidence Systems Developer Answered January 5, 2018 In summary space has many properties - negative pressure, a characteristic impedance, an electrical capacitance factor and an electrical inductance factor that together determine the velocity of EM waves. Space is dynamic - it expands and galaxies are separated. The one thing that it may not do, is curve.
Actually - Einstein's models do work - and have not been proven BS - quite to the contrary .. they have been proven correct. What is proven BS - is running around crying "False False False" as if this constitutes an argument.
"Many physicists claim that there's no way to understand anything, fundamentally, until we understand nothing. And although our understanding of it is partial -- which is to say, we understand the fundamental, basic laws of nature that govern empty spacetime -- we don't understand from whence those fundamental laws arise, and whether they themselves are a "thing."
Here is somewhat current article on what space is....good luck with it.... https://getpocket.com/explore/item/what-is-space?utm_source=pocket-newtab
No, not outside x,y,z as shown to you, based upon the examples given. No point in it. koko has empirical evidence all you have is weiner theory! However, now an increasing number of clear-cut experimental observations, achieved with the help of the tightly synchronized clocks of the Global Positioning System (GPS) [2-4], cannot be explained by the Theory of Relativity (TR). These experimental facts provide solid evidence that Einstein’s static spacetime curvature is only an apparent explanation that does not disclose the true natures of space and of the gravitational fields. Besides this lurks an even much more serious menace. GR cannot account for the observed gravitational dynamics of galaxies and moreover provides no physical grounds for the accelerated expansion of the universe. In order to amend these flaws, the ideas of dark matter and dark energy have been introduced. However, despite the immense experimental and theoretical efforts, to present date nobody has an idea what dark matter and dark energy exactly are. See discussions, stats, and author profiles for this publication at: Recent Experimental Observations Journal of Modern Physics · January 2013. Why its a 'mystery fabric!' They made it all up to kick the can of dislosing weiners failure another couple feet up the street! LMAO As we can see, you all have been weinerized! So its no surprise that we discover wienee worshipers have nothing to back their claims but circular arguments. Why do weinee worshipers apologize for him thus allowing him to get away with plagiarizing lorentz work and giving him credit for it? Isnt that a bit hypocritical?
I know Koko - compared to you - Einstein is a lightweight .. a wiener and we should take your word over his - and the rest of the scientific community - for what reason ? Know when you have been owned - now go and Learn !
At a conference on the Michelson–Morley experiment in 1927 at which Lorentz and Michelson were present, Michelson suggested that Lorentz was the initiator of the theory of relativity. Lorentz then replied: “I considered my time transformation only as a heuristic working hypothesis. So the theory of relativity is really solely Einstein's work. And there can be no doubt that he would have conceived it even if the work of all his predecessors in the theory of this field had not been done at all. His work is in this respect independent of the previous theories.” Lorentz, replying to Michelson at the Solvay Conference.
1) I present facts grounded in hard empirical evidence gathered from GPS sats. 2) Its peer reviewed. 3) You and your ilk present NOTHING in rebuttal.
Koko - I hate to burst your bubble but the GPS system uses Einstein's theories (wienie according to you) to correct for time dilation. That said .. nothing you have presented in your studies conflicts with Einstein's theory .. you just do not understand what you are reading.
Below is from the link addressed to Sir - Koko - with love ~~~ that you did not bother to read. "It turns out that we are fairly certain that space is neither of these things. Space is definitely not an empty void and it is definitely not just a relationship between matter. We know this because we have seen space do things that fit neither of those ideas. We have observed space bend and ripple and expand. This is the part where your brain goes, “Whaaaaat ... ?” Don't forget to remember the "Definitely not an empty void" part.
and he later worked with lorentz and discarded the aether theory part of lorentzs work, kept the rest