When Chauvin is acquitted...

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  1. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    I bet Rachel forgot to mention that George Floyd had a long history of problematic interactions with police including a bunch of convictions, or that he was so high on Fentanyl, his peeps thought he'd died in the car before the police showed up.
     
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    Has it occurred to you that violence and the possibility of death is the very nature of Police work? They don't spend 8-12 a day overseeing kindergartners.
     
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    and there were no crimes committed by police on any of those. I wonder if they’ll bring up where floyd, idiot that he was, repeated this exact same stunt in 2019.

    I’ll just presume you were aware of that.
     
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    Chauvin used approved procedures. In hindsight, did he do everything perfectly? Nope. They can argue that he should have handled it differently, but "Murder"?

    Lot of things should have been done differently starting with Floyd complying or not passing counterfeit money to start with and that is what caused this to head down this disastrous road.
     
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    The problem here is that the Democrat media and Democrat politicians have already primed their shock troops to violence. It is a foregone conclusion. Whether they answer to man for this is unknown. But what they can't escape is that in the end they will answer to God. And the legions they deceive and the sufferings they cause will be on their heads as well.
     
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    he was sitting in the back of a squad car, handcuffed. He was being somewhat unruly, and they drug him out and threw him to the pavement, face down, still cuffed behind his back, and Chauvin kneeling on his neck for over 7 minutes. That is completely illegal, depraved indifference homicide.
     
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    of course he was
    no it isn't. no policy department in any city in any state in the US teaches it's officers to kneel on a handcuffed, face down laying suspects neck for over 7 minutes, over 3 of which he was unconscious. Not one.
     
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    perhaps you forgot to mention that he was screaming while in the police vehicle that he couldn't breathe.... Is that what you were referring to as "somewhat unruly"? Hard to know. Watch the entire 30 odd minutes of police body cam video. It tells a very specific story about Floyd. And obviously why lefty media haven't bothered showing it to the public. It will be instructive.
     
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    No the autopsy did not show that. In fact it showed quite the opposite. His finding was pandering to a short video clip in deference to the mobs of angry shock troops stirred up by Democrats and the Democrat media. It is a sham.
     
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    Evidently, they do in Dallas. There are other cases as well....
     
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    So their answer to him saying he couldn't breathe was to put him on the ground face down and kneel on his neck for over 8 minutes??? That make sense to you?
     
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    Call it "somewhat unruly", if you want, but he was resisting and he had a long history of violence.
    That is what the trial is about.
     
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    Complaining about breathing was not the reason he was restrained.
     
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    I think that's your ego talking. I've known a lot of cops- some super sharp, some should be night security guards at the salvage yard, or less. In other words, a mix not unlike general life. I can't say the same about the highly educated, or those who think they are and it believe it makes them superior- lots of dumb ones in that group. Was invited to a Mensa meeting once and soon realized I was out of place. It was weird when they announce the speaker for the evening was a practicing witch, but when they said they had invited her back for this second appearance, I knew I didn't belong there. A high IQ and actual intelligence, as in wise and competent, are not necessarily companion characteristics.
     
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    To be frank, it doesn't. It doesn't in this case, it didn't when the Dallas PD did it. But, I try not to judge because I wasn't there. What I can judge is the amazing amount of fentanyl dude had in him, along with meth, and oxygen. The fact dude faded out for 20 or so minutes while the store folks were trying to get an actual real 20 from Floyd, just shows me that his rapid decline of that series of 40-50 minutes was the downward spiral of a drug addict who overshot. And that it is unfortunate that the police of Minneapolis had to become involved with this guy who, so irresponsibly conducted his life. That is the sad part. he was Covid hot. how many folks did he infect because of it? He was already wracked with disease, from the autopsy:
    II. Natural diseases
    1. A. Arteriosclerotic heart disease, multifocal, severe
    2. B. Hypertensive heart disease
      1. 1. Cardiomegaly (540 g) with mild biventricular
        dilatation
      2. 2. Clinical history of hypertension
    3. C. Left pelvic tumor (incidental, see microscopic description)

      IV. Viral testing (Minnesota Department of Health, postmortem nasal swab collected 5/26/2020): positive for 2019-nCoV RNA by PCR (see ‘Comments,’ below)

      Comments: The finding of sickled-appearing cells in many of the autopsy tissue sections prompted the Hemoglobin S quantitation reported above. This quantitative result is indicative of sickle cell trait. Red blood cells in individuals with sickle cell trait are known to sickle as a postmortem artifact. The decedent’s antemortem peripheral blood smear (made from a complete blood count collected 5/25/20 at 9:00 p.m.) was reviewed by an expert HHC hematopathologist at the Medical Examiner’s request. This review found no evidence of antemortem sickling.

      These are some of the results of the autopsy. I have posted more about the toxicology contents previously in the thread.

      This man made a lot of really bad choices, including overmedicating himself to his detriment. His expiration, while tragic, is still in my opinion self induced. And a lot of American cities were destroyed because some racists in media decided to champion this guy to stoke the violence that they hoped would hurt a president in his reelection bid. That's some F'in sobering reality. And that's why this case is before a jury. And I hope that said Jury find a reasonable decision here. This wasn't murder, it wasn't systemic racism, it wasn't black jesus dying on the pavement. This was a horrible, terrible bad day for everyone who had to deal with the aftermath of Floyd's decisions and actions.
     
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    Exactly...it doesn't make sense.

    On June 1, Hennepin County Chief Medical Examiner Andrew Baker ruled that Floyd, 46, died of cardiopulmonary arrest

    Baker found that Floyd's cause of death was "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression." He also listed hardening and thickening of the artery walls, heart disease and drug use as "other significant conditions." Fentanyl and methamphetamine were found in Floyd's system.
     
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    It's completely irrelevant. There is never a situation where it is ok, or legal to kneel on a handcuffed and face down laying suspects neck for over 7 minutes. That's called depraved indifference homicide, and why Chauvin will be going to prison for a few decades.
     
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    yes it did
    it did not.
    the autopsy shows the knee to the neck contributed to his death. Full stop. i'm sorry.
     
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    entirely irrelevant.

    obviously
     
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    You appear to be ignoring the simple fact that they put him into the squad car to drive him to jail. They can't have him thrashing around while they are trying to drive.
     
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    again, completely irrelevant. It doesn't matter what he was doing, what was in his system or what he was accused of. It is illegal for Chauvin to have kneeled on Floyds neck for over 7 minutes, 3 of which he was unconscious, all while Floyd was handcuffed, laying face down on the pavement, with 4 officers on top of him.
     
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    Show me the law which makes it illegal. it was an approved procedure.
     
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    Maybe post a definition of homicide? I dunno. The denial here is epic
     
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    I'm sorry that you either don't understand or don't like the law. Reality doesn't really give a **** though.
     
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    Uh what? Are you denying the death certificate says homicide?
     

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