HOUSE AND SENATE DEMOCRATS PLAN BILL TO ADD FOUR JUSTICES TO SUPREME COURT

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  1. Darth Gravus

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    If they get all the Dems on board they will not need any Repubs
     
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    The Constitution is mum on the size of the SCOTUS. I don't think the Republicans would reduce the size when they regained power. Adding more would be much more easier. As far as a reduction, I would think those already confirmed and sitting on the SCOTUS would remain. But no new justice would be appointed or confirmed when a vacancy occurred until the court was down to the reduced size. The appointments are for life.

    Just this layman's reading and thoughts. I'm sure if the Democrats add four, the Republicans would add six when they returned to power citing the Democrats adding of four as the precedence for so doing as they cited Reid in his first use of the nuclear option, setting the precedence for McConnell adding the SCOTUS.
     
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    Yeah, a BS 'rule' he made up on the fly.

    Don't insult our intelligence, Mitch.
     
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    Is it? Or is this how Eisenhower would respond? The whiplash of your commentary is astounding. Why do you support the tyranny of the left these days? And frankly, we are being victimized here. That you'd ignore that, well, must be a great view from those plantation steps...
     
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    Sorry, but that's the historical record. You should learn more.
     
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    Even knowing what I know today, I'd still not have voted for Trump. I'd have voted third party as I did in 2016 against both Trump and Clinton. Now I did my part in trying to ensure divided government by voting for Biden and then Republican for the senate. I never want to see either major party have full control of government, the presidency, the senate and the house. In 2022, I'll be voting Republican for the house and senate, no doubt about that. But I would never vote for Trump. Like I'd never vote for Hillary Clinton either. Both disgusted me to the max.

    2020 was an election decided by personalities and not issues. It was decided by independents and not either major parties base. Trump won in 2016 by winning independents. After four years of Trump's childish antics like name calling and throwing temper tantrums and his 3rd grade schoolyard bullying tactics. His very unpresidential behavior. After four years of that, independents switch from Trump, 46-42 in 2016 to Biden 54-41 in 2020. That from a plus 4 to a minus 13, a 17 point swing. Biden was the adult in the room, Trump the spoiled four year old brat.
     
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    I'm sure those who voted to do so agree with you. But that begs the question -- Were the ones who voted against it unsoundly opposed to it? The connection is that opinions can be swayed based on what is perceived to be sound reasoning. That's why I chose to never to say never.
     
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    Don't be fooled: The Supreme Court isn't expanding anytime soon
    Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large
    Updated 11:07 AM ET, Thu April 15, 2021

    (CNN)One of the most common mistakes in Washington is to confuse movement with action.

    ...

    At first glance, you might be tempted to think that Things. Are. Happening.

    The Democratic establishment listened to its liberal wing during the 2020 campaign and is reacting to blunt the clear advantage on the court that Trump, with a major assist from Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, established over the last four years!

    Yeah, no.

    What's happening in Washington in regard to changing the makeup of the court is sound and fury signifying not all that much (with apologies to William Faulkner).

    ... https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/15/politics/supreme-court-expansion/index.html
     
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    Hopefully if and when the GOP takes back the Congress it will be with reasonable people and the nutbag Trumpists will be long gone.
     
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    It’s an equalization. Not a power grab

    Very few cares when Republicans did it, strange how it is now something that is even unthinkable
     
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    Reason doesn't fly in the GOP anymore. Fox News has seen to that.
     
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    If the GOP takes back Congress they could always introduce another bill to add four more to the SC. I'm not sure they can remove a sitting SC Justice (by reducing the number) but adding to it is always an option.
     
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    It was decided by a massive mail in voting campaign of which no one has verified whether or not it was legitimate.
     
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    Do you think the picks would be equal? Currently they have 6 conservative justices and 3 liberal. If equalization is what they were after they only need to add 3 liberal justices.
     
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    An accused rapist and an evangelical that wants religious rule (which is decidedly against the constitution) are what is the issue. Had Republicans confirmed the moderate justice for Obama we wouldn’t be having this issue. If they would have “allowed the people to choose” like they demanded with happen last time we also wouldn’t be having this issue.

    This is completely caused by your party.
    Own it
     
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    Pelosi says she has 'no plans' to bring bill to expand Supreme Court to House floor

    (CNN)Democratic congressional leaders are rejecting a liberal push to expand the Supreme Court, dealing a blow to progressives in the latest sign that party leaders are attempting to tread cautiously on the highly controversial issue.

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi made clear Thursday that she does not currently support a bill pushed by some Democrats to expand the court and does not intend to bring it to the House floor for a vote.

    "No," Pelosi said at her weekly press conference when asked if she supports the bill and if she would commit to bringing it to the floor, though she did say she believes "it's an idea that should be considered," and said "it's not out of the question."

    ... https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/15/politics/democrats-supreme-court-expansion-bill-reaction/index.html
     
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    Taking power form someone else and giving to yourself is a power grab.
    The GOP has never increased the size of the court for the sole purpose ob creating a conservative majority.
     
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    So, in your estimation then, being the black heart you accuse him of being, Mitch should have already pushed through SCOTUS expansion... Why there should be at least 13 republican SCOTUS judges... right? This is the laugh that isn't funny that you folks continue to chant about. And just like the BS nuclear options that you're enamored with not, the pendulums swing, and the next time its your team on the losing side, you'll just cry. And when the SCOTUS has 35 judges and the next republican president appoints 20 judges to permanently shut off the spigot of liberal abuse, then what? And should they also permanently stop democrats from ever touching the SCOTUS by introducing an amendment and ramming it through the republican super majority, then what? Will you look back at your support of this now, and finally recognize just how stupid it was?
     
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    Brinksmanship from the worman who has now a razor thin majority. Just like the senate. Things change, and Nancy does't want to end up in a jail cell...
     
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    An Amendment has to be ratified by the states as well.
     
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    Where do you suppose the republican super majority exists today? I will suggest that after democrats are soundly rebuked in 2022 that it will also include the House and the Senate.
     
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    I'm an independent and your lack of response and inability to defend your position noted.

    So if this was Trump's first 100 days would you support expanding the court from 9 to 13?
     
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    The last election the states were split 25/25. That is not a super majority.

    It should be also noted that Dems received far more votes than the Repubs across the country.

    But I have bookmarked this post of yours so in 1.5 years I can laugh my ass off at your failed prediction.
     

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