Ukraine: Far-right activists mark 78th anniversary of Ukrainian SS division in capitel Kiev

To be current, suppose you are a very good human. You have 6 children. 3 End up in prison. What is your will?

 

You misunderstood. Biden certainly "threatened" to withhold aid money if Shokin wasn't fired; I've made that clear in other posts. And, Biden was playing "the tough guy" in his subsequent interview. But he had the support of Obama and the others in his threat. Shokin wasn't fired for some 3 months later. Not sure, but I don't think any of the aid was ever held-up, although that might be something to check.

 

I lived in post war Germany less time than you but for 15 months. It was the fashion at our time there to reject Hitler.
The majority of Jews executed were executed in other countries and not in Hitler's Germany.

Rise and Fall of the 3rd Reich by William Shirer an outstanding historian of that era.

 

Let me understand. Are you a supporter of Biden who voted for him? Of course Biden loves to brag.

 

I believe that those of us who actually lived in Germany after WW2 ended, as you and I did know the most about Hitler and his regime.

 

I meant eludes. It's the first time I didn't check on a word to make sure it was correct. Oh well!

 

WHO are You to judge?

I always liked the sealed promise of the rainbow.
Did the Lord "learn" the flood was an oopsy?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Answer_to_Job
contemplating criticism of God (Gotteskritik)
Good stuff if you can handle the depth.

So deep
Available in
https://www.amazon.com/Portable-Jun...20254221&sprefix=portable+jung,aps,214&sr=8-1

 

"Fashion?" The man was a monster. And, I read Shirer's book when it first came out. What is in it that makes you think he approved of Hitler?

 

I voted for Biden and Clinton as the "lesser evils." The political system needs serious reform. Trump wasn't/isn't the person to do it. He's just a bad little boy.

 

Fashion at the time as in the Germans rejected Hitler. Hitler was a monster. The Germans admitted he was.
Shirer did not approve of Hitler. I first started reading his book in 1963 and still have my copy of his book. Very good to reference to his book since it is accurate. (Read book 58 years ago)

 

Don't think Hitler ever won a fair election, under Weimar. Maybe he had around a third of the vote, then formed coalitions to gain a majority, which gave him the Chancellorship because his coalition partner had fewer votes. The Weimar Constitution had an "emergency powers clause for the Chancellor." He used the Reichstag fire as justification to ask Parliament to grant himself those powers. They did and he never gave them up, but supplemented them as his dictatorship took hold. Outside of that, I don't think Germany ever really scrapped their Constitution under Hitler. Same judicial system, except for the "emergency powers" which the Gestapo exploited, pretty much as they wished. But, the judges and the court system remained intact. No one had the courage to stop him until it was too late. In fact, I believe he was reasonably popular up until Stalingrad. If I remember Shirer's book right, the military could have stopped him with his invasion of the Rhineland, which had been occupied by the French. But, the military remained faithful to the State and Hitler was becoming the State. Maybe it was a variation on the "unitary presidency?"

 

Wrong for the first time.

Second.

Third.

And fourth. Man, you're on a roll. Maybe you should do some in depth investigating before you repeat what the liberal fake news MSM tells you. Hint, it ain't gospel.

Respectfully, you really don't know anything about the cesspool that is Ukraine. Don't get me wrong, there are some good people there....except for the ones running the show.

 

You'll have to do more than say "you're wrong." For a decent debate, you need to present reasons for why you think I'm wrong...other than blame it all on main stream media.

 

Pretty much everything you said of substance is bass ackwards. I'm not going to give you a lesson in Ukrainian recent history. Learn for yourself and get on a plane and see it first hand. I don't do welfare....I'm conservative. But frankly, it's quite pathetic you got the basics wrong....especially about Shokin.

https://justthenews.com/search?text=shokin

 

Your secular question wlll not explain how God works.

Instead, I will take an example from the Bible which tells a story [a love story] that reveals how God's Will works in mysterious ways!

In the OT, God was married to Israel.

Later Israel had a civil war and the 12 tribes of Israel divided into two separate kingdoms. The vast majority of Israel tribes became the Northern Kingdom of Israel... Judah and 2 related tribes became the smaller Southern Kingdom of Judah.

Both kingdoms sinfully rebelled against God. But God only divorced the Northern Kingdom of Israel and used Assyria to totally destroy the Northern kingdom. Assyria cast all those vast number of Israelites out of Palestine and resettled them among the gentiles in the 8th century BC.. and those Israelites became gentiles.

God did not divorce the Southern Kingdom of Judah [because God was destined to incarnate as Jesus Christ in the tribe of Judah.] But God did severely punish the Southern Kingdom of Judah by sending Babylon against them to take many Israelites captive into Babylon. Later Babylon and Edom laid a horrible siege against Jerusalem after which Babylon/Edom destroyed Jerusalem and the temple [Solomon's temple the Israelites had sinfully desecrated.]

The Northern Kingdom of Israel... the vast majority of Israelites... was lost to history since the 8th century BC... until God incarnated as Jesus Christ in the Israelite tribe of Judah in the 1st century AD to rescue the lost sheep of Israel. Jesus paid the "bride price." Jesus shed His blood and died to create God's New Covenant [New Marriage] that would again unite ALL 12 tribes of Israel as God's Bride. ALL 12 tribes would become Christians just as Jesus told us... "My sheep hear My voice, I know them and they follow Me." But to the evil antichrist Edomite-jews [who were foreign "converts" NOT Israelites] Jesus told them "YOU do not believe because YOU are NOT MY SHEEP" [ie, NOT Israelites!]

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Let's get a few things straight. The coup consisted only of those from the western part of Ukraine, and they were a minority. If they weren't a minority, they would have been voted into the government the way Yanukovich was, and wouldn't have had to resort to a Washington instigated coup.

According to the agreement signed with the EU, Yanukovich was still the president and when he went back to his office, his life was threatened by the Nazis - as were those who represented the majority of the Ukrainians. That's why Yanukovich left. The members of his party who didn't leave, were found hanging on the lamp posts of Kiev, compliments of the mafias and the Nazis who were on their payroll.

That Yanukovich and his family survived, was thanks to Vladimir Putin who stayed up all night telling him where to go to be picked up by a Russian helicopter. If you have been paying attention to foreign news media, you would know that he also saved the lives recently of Lukashenko and his family from another Washington instigated assassination.

As for the Yanukovich supporters you mentioned, they were the one's who represented the majority of people in Ukraine. It was though a coup, so the voices of the people didn't matter, only those from the Western part of Ukraine that supported the junta - and of course Washington.

I will say though, you have a talent in twisting reality.

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Some how I do not believe that how GOD treated the Jews is a good reply to my comment.

 

Hopefully I didn''t totally waste my time and effort.

God-willing, maybe somewhere somehow someone who lurks beyond the bandwidth will understand.

Btw... I don't like to use the word, jews, because the evil antichrist Edomites have usurped and cursed it.

Ironically, that fulfills a prophecy in Isaiah 65:15 that says God will leave the name as a curse... and will call His servants [Ie, Israelites] by another name [Christians!]

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Looks like you probably did live in Germany and did Read the same book I read on this event.

When I lived in CA one of the church members invited me to go with him in his car.
Turns out he told me one of his relatives in Germany was rounded up by the authorities and hung.

 

I needed just a salient reply to my question as to the children.

 

You won't have it voting for two criminals like Clinton and Biden.

 

I understand you are pro-Putin and that Putin walks a line between globalists and nationalists, not unlike many other countries today, including the U.S. I also understand he lives in a "rough neighborhood."

 

Hmmm...like Yanukovych, Putin bet on the wrong horse again with Trump.

 

If you regard any source that relates facts that are inconsistent with your brainwashing as "shitty", then you're already so far beyond hope that you probably even believe anything generated by Allied propagandists and the fraudulent Holocaust Industry (1), (2)

Re:

The homicidal gas chamber myth was just part of Allied propaganda intended to demonize & dehumanize the Germans as was related in the NMT "Green Series" and elsewhere:

“Auschwitz: Myths and Facts”
http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

EXCERPT “Allied Propaganda

The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay statements of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any actual signs of extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because rumors about gassings at Auschwitz were widespread. Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish and German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that people were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio stations. [15] CONTINUED

15. Nuremberg document NI-11696. NMT "green series," Vol. 8, p. 606.


Most people recognize the fact that all sides used propaganda during wartime. Apparently you're not one of them


(1) "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


(2) "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED

 

I suppose being over 70 makes me "very old" but I lived, studied and worked in Germany before its reunification and had the opportunity to know dozens of German and Allied WW 2 Veterans as well as honest WW 2 and holocaust survivors who tell the truth(1).

Not one of them related stories about an industrialized genocidal agenda because none existed as I both wrote and supported in my Post # 176.




(1) "Auschwitz Was NOT a 'Death Camp' - Holocaust Survivor Testimony"
https://archive.org/details/AuschwitzWasNotAdeathCamp-HolocaustSurvivorTestimony

EXCERPT "Investigations of physical evidence and original documentation, however, have cast doubts on the Holocaust narrative that has been formed. For example, areas claimed to be mass graves, have been found with modern investigative technology to contain no human remains. Testimonies of accused perpetrators show evidence of outright fabrication, or were obtained through torture. Many of the supposed eyewitnesses have provided stories riddled by inconsistencies, describe physically impossible events, or were even total frauds who were never actually in the camps." CONTINUED