So is it "racist" to assume...

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  1. dairyair

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    I did. What you are claiming, I didn't find.
     
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    It's not skin color. It's apparent ancestry. Lots of people from South Asia, Australia, the Pacific islands, etc. have darker skin than most American "blacks," but are not considered "black" in the USA. Many American "blacks" have such light skin that they can pass for white.
     
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    <sigh> The first quote is in part II B, Drug Sales, second paragraph. The second quote is in Part III. Why Such Large Disparities in Arrests?, fourth paragraph. I urge all readers to confirm this for themselves, as dairyair appears to be indulging in some outrageous gaslighting.
     
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    Nope....since the OP and subsequent others base their "stats" on information from the DOJ and FBI, all I did was ACTUALLY GO TO THE SITES AND GET THE RAW NUMBERS.

    Now, if you and your brethren can produce the source material that factually disproves my assertions, have at it. Otherwise, you're just blowing smoke as usual.
     
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    No it's not it can be racist it either is or it is not I simply stated a simple fact relative to crime statistics that's not racist it's only racist in your mind I told you what I think was the main cause of it but then you proceed to go on and straw man me for 12 pages and tell me it's something else that I never said it was so like I said if you want to make that argument you can argue with yourself about it
     
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    The OP uses the Census percentage of black Americans....like I said, that and other posters used percentage numbers to make their bigoted bushwah seem legit. All I did was use the RAW numbers these stats were based on and did some basic math. TFB if it shows you and your brethren for the racist number jugglers you are....you shouldn't punch above your weight class. The chronology of the posts will always make you out to be a liar here, no matter how much you deny and revise.
     
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    And you can't answer the simple question point to one thing I said that's racist I've only asked you that about eight times now and the fact that you can't betrays and reveals you for what you are
     
  8. dairyair

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    Again, that's been my point in this thread, the color or skin, ie melanin, isn't a factor in crime rates.
    No need to tell me that.
     
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    Culture and poverty are bigger indicators of crime than skin color.
     
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    I see what I did. I looked at my original post with the link.
    I forgot I did a 2nd link in another post.

    Now you don't have to be so distraught.
     
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    You posted a misleading fact, with no link to the actual data you are referring to. And your OP asks if that stat can be assumed racist, to which I said YES.
    Requoting your own post over and over and over for 12 pps is not making a strawman. It's reposting your exact words.

    Unless you think skin color is the reason for crime rates, your so called stat is misleading.

    I showed you it's more related to poverty. And fairly equal between black and white skin.
     
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    You should tell that to your OP buddy who for 13 pages has been calling that a strawman.
     
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    If you constantly idolize treating women like sexual objects and killing rival gang members, that might have an impact on the culture and behavior.
     
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    What a gracious concession.
     
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    You are likely correct on the idolizing women thing. A very recent president idolized women like sex objects and committed some crimes.
    As for gang culture, fostered by systemic racism of the past.
     
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    BS. Fostered by a culture that doesn’t value fatherhood.
     
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    Caused by systemic racism.
    Black communities used to be vibrant.

    In much of the country, the years following World War I saw a spike in racial tensions, including the resurgence of the white supremacist group the Ku Klux Klan, numerous lynchings and other acts of racially motivated violence, as well as efforts by African Americans to prevent such attacks on their communities.

    By 1921, fueled by oil money, Tulsa was a growing, prosperous city with a population of more than 100,000 people. But crime rates were high, and vigilante justice of all kinds wasn’t uncommon.

    Tulsa was also a highly segregated city: Most of the city’s 10,000 Black residents lived in a neighborhood called Greenwood, which included a thriving business district sometimes referred to as the Black Wall Street.
    https://www.history.com/topics/roaring-twenties/tulsa-race-massacre


     
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    As professor Thomas Sowell and others have pointed out, African American culture valued fatherhood until the 1960s, when welfare rules financially rewarded poor mothers for not having an adult male living in the household. Over the following generation, the fraction of African American children born to unmarried women increased from 20% to 70%. Coincidence?
     
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    That makes no sense, as systemic racism has certainly and substantially decreased over the same time that those formerly vibrant African American communities have deteriorated into crime-infested trash heaps. If you want to blame the War on Drugs, the prison-industrial complex, perverse incentives in the welfare system, landowner privilege, and other economic factors, I can certainly see a case for that. But systemic racism? It has declined a lot in the last 60 years while African American culture has also declined. Blaming racism for the latter is facile and superficial. Read Thomas Sowell on the subject.
     
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    Men of all cultures treat women as sexual objects; that's hard-wired. But African American drug-thug culture glorifies treating them as (and explicitly calling them) whores, if not slaves or even livestock:

     
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    What's "misleading" ? That 13% of the population have elevated levels of violent crimes? That's a fact. Now your apparent issue is how you feel about that, I can't help you there. That's on you.
     
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    Jusus Christ, you can drag Trump into even the most completely unrelated threads, can't you? Though I must say I am impressed, this thread could set a record, took what? 13 pages for him to appear? Progress, I suppose
     
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    So you agree culture plays a role? Finally.
     
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    Evidently there is, you are the only one who keeps mentioning that.
     
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    It has?
    How so, it became illegal, but making something illegal doesn't change mindsets.

    It takes generations, often 3 or more to get rid of those systemic racism mindsets.
     

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