What good is religion?

You may rather like what near death experiencer Mrs. Betty J. Eadie was shown about the purpose of the various religions.

https://near-death.com/betty-eadie-nde/

 

The "purpose" of religion is what 5 billion people thinks it is and not you.
And you are merely saying something that religion was never intended to be. It is a social group. If you understood what I wrote earlier, it imparts an evolutionary advantage to a tribal group. Members of the group are more willing to sacrifice for the group, have increased group cohesion and are better organized than group's without it. Your idea is your fantasy of what religion should be but we are still too tribal and not ready to join the United Federation of Planets.

 

So then if one or a few people exhibit abnormal behavior...it might be considered insane.
But if 5 billion people develop that exact same behavior...it miraculously becomes normal.

 

Everything we hear, touch, see, etc...is constantly changing....that is reality.
Only the religious wish to keep their illusions intact...

 

It's hardly abnormal. Man has been exhibiting this behavior before written time...it is normal. Your view point....not so much.

 

Yes..... some near death experiencers were even shown that some of our beliefs
are so powerful that when some people die....... because they believed that they
needed to sleep in the grave until Gabriel would blow a horn at the resurrection......
they go into something like a sleep state for a while in the afterlife?????


https://near-death.com/george-ritchie-nde/

 

My concern with her "experience" is that she's suggesting
that some "religions" are designed for slower folks...
so then their must be higher and lower forms of "religion".

So I would ask her if she thought that the environment on this planet
would be able to sustain itself long enough
for all the "challenged" religious ones to catch up.

Wouldn't a "religious" person feel insulted that Betty
might consider one religion superior or inferior to the rest

 

Yep...and they will most likely continue their behavior,
but that doesn't mean it is healthy.
When the man called Jesus was around...you might say he behaved somewhat "abnormally"
compared to the majority of those around him...and so he was beaten and murdered.
So which was insane....the man that was "different"?
Or the horde that wanted him dead.

 

Moralists always get hated.

Look at how many times Jesus had to run from stonings.

Just look at the forum and note the attacks from believers who feel morally challenged by others.

Christians tend to go personal because they cannot argue for their moral position or theology.

They had to use inquisitions for many good reasons. Good to the religious murderers that is.

Regards
DL

 

It's called human nature. All groups are subject to it; governments, businesses, religion. Religions are not really guided by an all knowing overlord, just the one they imagine, so things happen. They can be held to a higher standard because they supposedly set a higher moral standard, but it is all subjective. I think you are expecting too much out of them and focusing on the negative. You can cherry pick the Jihadists, the racists, the pedophiles but most of the religious are actually good people who need a religion. If religion was not needed it would not be invented over and over again.

 

In your opinion.....
what level of credibility would you give to the theory on why Christianity of the second, third and fourth century turned against the teachings on the Gilgul Cycle that seemed to be a part of first century Messianic Jewish teachings?




http://www.politicalforum.com/index...nation-was-edited-out-of-christianity.370322/

Why reincarnation was edited out of Christianity?

www.ThomasTwin.com/

 

Good for the in group only.

Ask any gay or woman wanting to be equal.

Homophobia and misogyny and adoring a genocidal god shows that Christianity is not representing human nature well at all.

The opposite is in fact true. Check your facts on harm to women, woman.

Regards
DL

 

You are still referencing human nature and the contrast between conservative and progressive thought. They may both believe in the same god/religion but see different worlds.

 

What you are referring to as "human nature" is no less than psychotic behavior.
Killing/destroying all lifeforms...including themselves out of their greed and selfishness.
Their "religions"...like ignorant, over-indulgent parents...coddling their followers.
"Religions" tell their followers that THEY themselves...because of their "religions" are the righteous...
and that the so-called "unbelievers"...the infidels...the heathens (and everyone else) are the the problem.
The "religious" have a favorite excuse....they say "nobody's perfect" therefore they can't be held accountable
for what they do...they are virtually admitting they are insane.
So then why would their "all powerful" God create such an imperfect mistake as humans?
Are you now admitting that those "religion's" so called "omnipotent Gods" are also flawed?
That might explain the idea that "Man...made God(s)...in his own image".....
instead of the other way around.

 

Russian homophobia from Stalin to Sochi
D Healey - 2017 - Bloomsbury Publishing

Examining nine'case histories' that reveal the origins and evolution of homophobic attitudes in modern Russia, [Stalin Atheist] Dan Healey asserts that the nation's contemporary homophobia can be traced back to the particular experience of revolution, political terror and war its people …

After a series of study on the propaganda Stalin [atheist] has used and the legislations he has enabled to fulfill these two goals, I come to a conclusion that Stalin uses the emancipation of women as a pretense to mobilize women mainly for economic development and military preparation. To prove that Stalin has failed to promote feminism, the paper is structured as followed.
https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation.aspx?paperid=94703


but mao and stalin were atheists

looks to me like you lost the initiative!

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Not "human nature" at all....it's human foolishness....it's human unconsciousness.
Why are you pandering these "religious".
Do you think their fake God will save you if you help them continue their destruction.

Yes and then proceed to fight wars to the death to prove who's delusion is the "right" one....destroying everything in their paths.
It's an endless cycle...repeating the same mistakes...insanity.
And you are condoning it..singing how wonderful is "religion".

 

It's called human nature. All groups are subject to it; governments, businesses, religion. Religions are not really guided by an all knowing overlord, just the one they imagine, so things happen. They can be held to a higher standard because they supposedly set a higher moral standard, but it is all subjective. I think you are expecting too much out of them and focusing on the negative. You can cherry pick the Jihadists, the racists, the pedophiles but most of the religious are actually good people who need a religion. If religion was not needed it would not be invented over and over again.

Let's define bigotry. It an unreasonable prejudiced belief against a person or group. The bigot focuses on negative aspects of the person or group while ignoring the positive raising the negative features to dominate their view of the people or group through confirmation bias. This leads to an unbalanced perception, that entails fear, hate and imagining nefarious intent by the person or group.

 

You ignore their main points in common.

They all have their heads up the ass of a genocidal god and think the souls of women and gays are inferior to their own.

I will let you crawl in there to separate the various cults.

Make sure to say Heil to each for me.

Regards
DL

 

Indeed. Like Christianity, when the hierarchy need fund raising, they elevate women as they do it a lot better than men.

Fascist Christianity is immoral, not stupid.

Regards
DL

 

Is this bigotry, or something worse?

1 Timothy 2:11-12 – Religious Criticism

Regards
DL

 

Paul had issues with the Opposite sex - and sex in general .. pardon the pun

 

and your alternative is worse!

 

Congratulations! You've defined "religion" in it's finest hour!

 

"Religion" is not "needed" at all.
"Religion" is not "needed" any more than cigarettes are "needed".
"Religion"...like nicotine...is a temporary "fix"... it has only a temporary effect on nor-epinephrine, dopamine, serotonin etc,.
and so must be repeated over and over to satisfy the addictive "need".
Humans only imagine they "need"...a something else....like money, power
possessions, "religion" etc., to make them whole.

"Humans are the only animals on this planet who can simply make things up, agree on them as a group, and they become real."
"Social reality is an incredible gift. You can simply make stuff up, like a meme or a tradition or a law, and if other people treat it as real, it becomes real."

 

I think that was just Betty expressing her opinion.

But you started a thread about another NDE.....https://www.embracedbythelight.com/post/charles-camp-an-athiest-meets-god-returns