What good is religion?

I hoped you would be more self aware.

Its persistence and popularity over human history tells me you have a need to negate that fact despite all evidence to the contrary.

 

You need a little introspection as well....reread what a bigot is.

 

Yes of course...I must first recognize my own motivations before I can identify them in others.
I must first experience an imaginary "need" for "religion" if I am to understand it in others.

So far your whole defense of "religion" has been about nothing but that.... "persistence and popularity".

Do you likewise defend all forms of substance abuse?

 

Only to the immoral.

In which area or issue were you thinking of, or were you thinking at all?

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DL

 

I am not sure who made that statement.

No one is more anti the religious in the mainstream's right wing.

I am kinder, as I should be, with those who have modernized to the notions of equality.

Religions, if you can recognized that that word is synonymous with tribe and fellowship, you will know that religion and the need of fellowship is indeed needed to unite our various tribes, religions and countries.

Religions are born from a need for fellowship and I do not think we can ever get that instinct out of our societies.

Leave our selfish gene to do it's work buddy, but do please continue to try to mitigate the damage they still do.

Other than that little point, keep it up. I like what I see.

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DL

 

Hey. That is close to what god told me.

He said it was the human thing to do.

God knows Christians follow Satan.

Who is more likely to use genocide as a form or justice, when they can cure as easily as kill: Satan or Yahweh/Jesus?

History says --- ??????

Demiurges. Yuk. Good thing this is all fiction.

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DL

 

I was asking you to scale it.

Moral cowards abound, and will not admit when something fits the description and/but they do not like the inference.

Remember all those that publicly held their noses to vote for the liar?

You just did the same. Shame on you.

Regards
DL

 

You sound like an angry teenager who's been rebuffed by a girl and now hates women. They're all mean and I hate them.
You're like someone who has lost or never had a balanced perspective. I have no need for religion myself, but I am mature enough to see others do. Dismissing their needs as a form of mental illness is arrogant ignorance.

Any construct of man can be criticized if you look. No governments, financial systems or religions can ever be perfect. Some are irredeemable. Unrestrained capitalism has caused much suffering and death, but I can't say all financial systems are bad, just like I cannot say that about all religions. Bigotry is only seeing the negative.

 

dont you read who you quote?

 

so afayac you have no need to express or act upon your beliefs?

 

Lol...So your only defense for religion is it's "persistence and popularity"...(like drug abuse).
And so now you just want to throw stones at each other...(typical "religious" tactic)

Okay....
You sound like a haphazard mother, who lets her spoiled children run wild in the streets.
When they are caught lying, cheating, stealing....you refuse to reprimand them.
You say they are too beautiful and popular to have done anything wrong.
And when your children are grown and are convicted of heinous crimes....
you blame the victims...because your children are too beautiful and popular to be wrong.

I don't mind throwing your stones back at you...but it doesn't accomplish anything.

 

I can't see anything wrong with expressing beliefs.
I would only suggest that the motives be examined first.
Humans are literally full of beliefs...not much different than an over-flowing trash bin.

"Humans are the only animals on this planet who can simply make things up, agree on them as a group, and they become real."
"Social reality is an incredible gift. You can simply make stuff up, like a meme or a tradition or a law, and if other people treat it as real, it becomes real."

 

All of that is correct IMO....except that you are misquoting me on the "religion" part.
I did not say that "religions" are bad...I said they are not needed.
Saying that something is "not needed" is not negative...and is also not bigotry.
Saying that something is not needed is simply an observation.

If people need to gather and socialize...nothing wrong with that IMO.
But when they are exclusive to some...then they are the bigots.

 

People "need" healthy food, clean water, clean air, shelter, and sometimes...other people.

People do not need "religion".....what they "need" is to know who they are.
@Greatest I am...knows who he is.

 

I found 12 definitions of "mature"....
Which one applies to you...
and by what criteria have you reached that conclusion?

 

Hinduism embraces many religious ideas. For this reason, it's sometimes referred to as a “way of life” or a “family of religions,” as opposed to a single, organized religion.

https://www.history.com/topics/religion/hinduism

Religion and life meaning: Differentiating between religious beliefs and religious community in constructing life meaning
An individual's religion involves not only a set of beliefs, but also an involvement in a community of like-minded others. ... Differences between and within the groups were the result of the content, as well as certainty, of belief. Religion is one of the major resources used to generate meaning in life.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0890406504000064


but religion is the core or foundation of a 'way your life', how can you possibly be without your beliefs?

.

 

A worthy lamentation gabmux. But "bury religion"? To what end if not a rebirth of hope within the quiet solitude of ones own heart, mind, and soul. A religious man once said that when all else fails, work. Paint up, clean up, fix up...just work. Work is a large part of religion.

 

Atheists have beliefs also, and stats show that theirs brings more peace and lawfulness than where religion are stronger.

How can you stay with an evil making religious ideology when the atheist one is demonstrably better.

Is morals not the most important part of religions?

Why are religious morals so satanic and why do you promote it?

Regards
DL

 

It's opium for the masses, didn't ya know?

 

Not as large as the hate against women and gays and the promoting of a genocidal god who is somehow good.

Regards
DL

 

It does dull the senses for sure.

Look at how Christian apologetics have deteriorated.

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DL

 

I see no hatred towards women in the Bible. And nearly nothing regarding sexual perversity aside from adultery and lust. I think the focus on those matters comes from you. As for a genocidal God, why are you and I still here? As for work, in the very first book of the Bible God commands Adam and Eve to work by the sweat of their brow. Industriousness is good for everyone. Christianity is all about apologizing, asking forgiveness, baptism, faith, patience, loving, forgiving, and working out ones salvation by degrees over the course of ones lifetime, praying, adjusting ones own behavior and growing in grace, truth and understanding, and trying to become more like the savior. How you can see evil or maliciousness in that says more about your character than Gods.

 

Seems you are pedaling BAD INFO!
Imagine that!

This study examined the relationship at a societal level, based on 1990–1991 data from 13 industrial nations. Overall, the findings revealed that more religious countries have lower crime rates than less religious countries, at least regarding property crimes (as opposed to either aggressive or victimless offenses).
Crime and religion: An international comparison among thirteen industrial ...
www.sciencedirect.com > article > pii

 

Then you are a fool who is blind, amplified by your psychobabble.

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DL

 

Check the jail stats in the U.S.

Christianity is dying wherever education improves. It cannot live through modernization and our better secular moral values.

Like the equality of all souls.

Something immoral Christians, mostly on the right, resist.

Regards
DL