We're Witnessing a Marxist Revolution in America Today

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  1. stone6

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    The pandemic was a national emergency. If it had been intentionally weaponized by the Chinese, it would have been an act of war. It surprised me that Trump said so little about it and failed to demand more cooperation from the Chinese in providing the world an explanation (and, yes, I think Biden should do so). On regulations, the overriding law usually states the extent to which the agencies may regulate. I believe all regulations have to be published in the Federal Register before enactment for public comment. If you have any specific gripe regarding a specific regulation, write your Congressional representatives. Law (and the regulations with the force of law) is largely a function of the size and diversity of the society over which it governs. The greater the population, its density and cultural diversity, the more likely the conflicts between people and the greater need for law to peacefully resolve those conflicts. The government (local, state, and federal) is composed of "the people," who trace their authority to elected representatives, who are also "the people" (i.e. by the people), and enforce the law (for the people). That law (and the regulations stemming therefrom) is generally made by the majority, with minority rights.
     
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  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Both, they are the same anyway.
     
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    There were 5.

    Groucho, Harpo, Zeppo, Chico and Gummo.
     
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    Marxism is an economic theory, not a big bad bully telling little white boys how bad they are. Such snowflakes. Everybody criticizes everybody and everything all the time. Those with a pair don't quake in fear.

    Nobody is "criticizing all of America's founding values." That's BS. What's being criticized is America's failure to live up to those values, and a belief that America can become a more perfect union. <<<--- that is America's founding constitutional value. And that's what's being done.
     
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    Part 2
    Democrats fall in love with the security state.

    NBC News
    “Democrats Now Give the CIA Higher Marks than Republicans Do. That's a Really Big Shift”
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna703206
    FiveThirtyEight
    Why Democrats And Republicans Did A Sudden 180 On The FBI”
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/fiveth...-republicans-did-a-sudden-180-on-the-fbi/amp/

    This should be enough to make any rational leftist’s skin crawl. This is how bad trump broke the critical reasoning skills of the whole hashtag resistance herd.
    They are now fan boys of the federal government’s two most disreputable institutions. Why the sudden shift in opinion for these ghouls? Easy, the CIA supposedly is protecting America from GRU agents lurking around every corner, because fear based propaganda spewed by corporate media 24/7 for four years. Thank goodness the CIA is woke while they’re posing a threat to democracies around the globe.
    The same thing goes for the goons at the FBI. Members of the Blue tribe take great satisfaction that the FBI is being used against the red tribe. Hilarious how blue tribesmen seem to forget that the FBI have been used to target leftist in America since the beginning of the Cold War, and can be used against them again.
    Boot licking for the Security State has traditionally been a rightwing thing to do.

    Dems love them some censorship.
    Rasmussen
    Most Voters Still Don’t Trust Social Media Censorship, But Democrats Do”

    https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pu...rust_social_media_censorship_but_democrats_do
    This issue is thick with hypocrisy. I know, I still get a kick out of listening to the right piss, and moan about cancel culture, and act as if it’s some new phenomenon invented by the left. The right invented cancel culture a long time ago, and it’s been around in form another under another name forever. But, the point is the left use to be the champions of free speech, and use to oppose censorship. But, the regressive left have now become the biggest proponents of censorship, and anti free speech even before Trump came along. This insidious behavior started with the left in Academia, and it eventually leaked into the mainstream left.
    Ok, it’s fun to watch Trump, and his ilk get booted off Social media platforms. Technically it’s not a violation of free speech, because under the constitution only the government is prevented from suppressing speech. Ok cool, corporate censorship is no big deal. Free speech can’t be squelched in America by the government via social media, oh wait it’s already being done, and done by the very same social media giants that are helping authoritarian regimes around the world implement censorship on their own citizens.
    Only a illogical person doesn’t grasp ramifications of what is happening, and only regressive people approve of this. And, there’s a whole bunch of people in the so called left that approve of censorship.

    To be continued.........
     
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    Correct. All men are created equal. While buying, selling, and owning black people.

    The words are Great. The execution of those words, not so much.
     
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    So secret, anti-white, Marxists are actually controlling all of society, eh? That's some fierce bogeyman: representing a political philosophy that has never been truly manifested ANYWHERE, and which has seen it's closest reproductions, fail spectacularly. The most successful forms of Communism today (China; Viet Nam) incorporate a very good bit of Capitalism. Conversely, modifying pure, unrestrained Capitalism to include some Socialist considerations, for overall society's common good-- as has been done, in small pieces, throughout American history-- does not turn it into Marxism. Nor does it make it no longer Capitalism.

    As for these hidden forces, threatening white dominance, it takes only a glance at the world, to show either how utterly ineffective have been these puppet-masters (who have yet somehow risen to their superceding position, in a world that, from all visible signs, is largely dominated by Whites, with the Chinese now elbowing a place for themselves), or that your unsubstantiated claims about the grand design of these invisible enemies, is nothing but sheer fantasy.

    Where's the meat?

    Fear the VEGAN, HIPPY, future-TYRANTS of the NEW WORLD ORDER!!! Is that about right?
     
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  8. Libhater

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    LOL!
     
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    How is corporatism different from Fascism?

    It should be noted that that the first man to call Fascism Corporatism was the originator of Fascism, Mussolini himself.

    In re the bolded, my GOD (the Deist One of Jefferson) I WISH that idea was put on plaques and put up in every HS social studies classroom. We are constantly told in those chambers that we SHOULD participate in government but almost never given any idea as to HOW we should do so
     
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    As nouns the difference between fascism and corporatism
    is that fascism is (historical) a political regime, having totalitarian aspirations, ideologically based on a relationship between business and the centralized government, business-and-government control of the market place, repression of criticism or opposition, a leader cult and exalting the state and/or religion above individual rights originally only applied (usually capitalized) to (benito mussolini)'s italy while corporatism is political/economic system in which power is exercised through large organizations (businesses, trade unions, their associated lobbying efforts, etc) working in concert or conflict with each other; usually with the goal of influencing or subsuming the direction of the state and generally only to benefit their own socioeconomic agendas at the expense of the will of the people, and to the detriment of the common good.
    https://wikidiff.com/fascism/corporatism

    Are there similarities yea, are the exact same thing, no.
     
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    I have been inside a Marxist country when East Germany was Marxist. Dreary and fearful is the way it was.

    To get an idea, the Democrats fear automatic weapons. The Marxists are loaded with automatic weapons and have no worry about killing citizens.
     
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    This is my major objection to Democrats and their rulers. They do not deliver equality. They pretend to deliver equity.
     
  13. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    We don't approve of censorship, we approve of private property

    The Internet isn't a 'town square' it's the town itself. Anyone can build a platform in the town and use it to shout out his message all he wants. What conservatives seem to be asking for is that whoever builds a really big platform with a humongous PA system should be forced to give free time to anybody, whether anybody agrees with them or anyone else. If you're in the International Humane Society you have to grant free time to the Gruesomely Crush Cute Things on TV Club.

    Or to put it another way I have the right to demand that my essay "The Fetus As A Wart" be given space on your private web page (and I'm going to sue you if you don't)

    Go ahead, please tell me, except for questions of size HOW is that different from saying Facebook can't "censor" what they allow to be put on Facebook?
     
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    How does that happen? Bring us from theoretical musings into the world of reality one time if you'd be so kind.
     
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    Wow, nice right wing talking point. You literally just made it easier for me to prove my case. Next, who is this we, do you have a mouse in your pocket or something?
     
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    And they have for as long as I have been alive.
     
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    Not surprising:
     
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    imagine a boot stamping on a human face -- forever.
     
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    The two are incompatible.
     
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    Commies are everywhere. That is your argument.

    How many more boring platitudes do you have in store for this forum?
     
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    Spoken like a true Marxist who has no problem watching our nation go the way of communism while under this current democrat leadership. And commies are everywhere, that is every where you find a democrat or a leftist or a socialist.
     
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    They are. Most of them were shafted, though, by Hillary in 2016. Otherwise Trump would have beaten Bernie "Lake House" Sanders.
     
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    We are living in the clown world edition of a Marxist Society. This video sums it up hilariously.

     
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    Even Marx himself would be proud of himself at how far uneducated leftists have taken his theory.
     
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    Spoken like a Nazi.
     

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